EVE General Discussion

Because all I see are complaints.

I would of thought the developers would of received overwhelming data and feedback from players before making such a change since it affects such a large amount of the player base but the majority of the threads are wanting a rollback until it's fixed.

It's like a select few of you have this opinion on what EVE PVE should be and screw everyone else who thinks otherwise. You want it to be more like PVP but if people wanted that then...wouldn't they go and just PVP? Why are you forcing these changes when all the threads on the matter say no thank you.

Not only that but it's broken. I mean it's doable but it's a teeth pulling experience. EWAR is out of hand and flying a drone boat is just a hassle, you basically have to babysit your drones and even then they have a tendency to pop faster that you can recall.

So I ask you: Why the drastic changes and why change it like this? Where did you get your data from that this would be the best way? Why have you re-balanced NPC AI without the rest of the PVE changes that it was obviously intended for?

*Puts flame retardant suit on*

The only mistake I personally see is with drones and that CCP should have given us a better interface to control drones before making NPCs smarter. It is frankly a pain in the arse having to control individual drones over a menu with 10-15 entries where I spend half the time just trying to find the right entry. Modules on the other hand can be activated individually over the keyboard and allow to be rearranged to make it even easier. It is quite a difference!

I do like to use drones and I don't mind NPCs being smarter, but the interface is beginning to suck hard on my nerves.

@Spurty - I'm not complaining about difficulty. You obviously have reading comprehension issues if you think so and I personally have a friend who teaches remedial English if you're interested! PM me for details.

@Ildryn - I've noticed some of your recent posts are very much the same so I'll do what others do and ignore anything you have to say from now on ;)

@Whitehound - Have you not noticed some of the insane EWAR against certain factions? Like 15+ ships sensor dampening you or perma jamming? Quite a few including myself have.

Excessive ECM is nothing new, Guristas are evil with their jamming and Serpentis Sensor dampening can be hard to overcome, there is however a solution, know thy enemy and fit accordingly.

I personally don't run Guristas missions because they're a pain in the arse, I believe FoF missiles and drones work well against them. For Serpentis, fit a Sensor Booster or 2 with range scripts, even damped you should still have a respectable targeting range.

The new NPC Ai is manageable, there are already fits around that use new modules to gain a tactical advantage over the Ai, Sentry Domis for example can use the new MJD to jump and place their sentries way out of NPC aggro range, but well within the drones optimal+falloff. Alternatively NPCs don't like Ewar, web an NPC frig and see how fast the little bugger gets out of webrange.

Yeah ill admit that the EWAR issue has been cocked up a little but, and it wasnt implemented in an ideal way

I dunno, it sounds like you're complaining about difficulty to me.

Frankly about time the NPCs stopped acting like clay pigeons.

Yes you have to actually be at your computer now to make piles of isk, Oh the Horror

If you lose 100% of your drones you are doing it wrong! I will lose on average 2-3 small drones per day (that could be up to 6 hours running mission) Larger drones are more at Risk but you if you take out all the cruisers with guns and set the heavies on the BS you are generally ok. I tend to loose a few more of them per day than the smaller drones, but mainly thats due to lack of attention

Obviously you have not done Level IV missions lately.

Battleships alone on a field will now target and destroy your Large Drones now long before they can get back to their bay.

Eliminating frigs and cruisers stops nothing.

Edit: and with full attention onscreen. What a stupid, snarky thing to inject into your post.

It has been quite some time since I've run any agent missions, but I hear the changes brought k-space NPCs more in line with the Sleeper AI from W-space. If that's true, welcome to our world.

If NPCs are decimating your drones, perhaps it is because you are trying to afk or solo missions like you used to. The Sleeper AI has a greatly reduced chance to target drones when other players are present and a very high chance when you are alone. Perhaps you should play with others, since this is an MMO and all, and be attentive at the computer while doing so. There are also ways to further reduce the chance that your drones are shot as well.

(ECCM is also reported to work against jamming. Just a rumour, though, y'know)