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He's not running now anyway, he's stepped down.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=53106&find=unread

Welp.

Don't flatter yourself.

This has always been a mystery to me. Why does a CSM ever have to let the broad player base know who they are? We've already had a number of incidents with people taking information and engage in cyber-stalking. So far there has only been harassment, but that one day may come when someone decides to go knocking on someone's door. I completely understand CCP needing to know who the candidates are. Persons with clean criminal histories and the ability to obtain a passports, but the rest of EVE is another story.

Anonymity for safety. This should be obvious, given that we already have documented cases of mentally unstable persons in the past engaging in stalking if some thing were to happen what kind of legal liability would CCP face? It's not like they can say they never had a problem before and some sharp lawyer will ask the question "What could CCP have reasonably known given past incidents and what should they have reasonably done in response?" An EULA in the face of a major tort action is not the kind of shield CCP is going to want to have in the face of a legal and media firestorm. The shield of anonymity however is far less expensive and even the laziest person could put forth the effort to take measures needed to ensure anonymity.

Is CCP telling us that willfully indifferent to the safety of its own players? Why is anonymity for the real life identities of the candidates critical to the running of the CSM? Would it suffice for the player base to simply know all the characters and accounts of the candidate running? Would someone at CCP like to comment on this?

Missing a few steps frying doom.

Step 1. Create an NPC corp alt, that is way more annoying.

Step 2. Sperg a ton more.

Step 3. Tell people they are breaking the rules after doing those steps.

Sorry you lost me on Step 1, I would happily argue that NPC corp alts are not part of the community as they are not player corps and so should not be allow to post but I will try harder at steps 2 and 3

Thanks frying doom, I think that is what I was trying to get to.

Also, Hi Sec rules, and My retriever will see you in hell, Scooter McCabe!!!!!!

Okay explain to me how hard it is not not use a real person's name? That's incredibly lazy to say "Well it will probably leak out anyway, so lets not bother." I worked in insurance for years doing health and life policies and we never had a problem maintaining client confidentiality. That included not releasing names and simply coding names as a serial number while they went through underwriting so an underwriting couldn't say "Oh hey client X is on anti-psychotics, he must be a bad person lets inform his employer." I never had a client's personal information get doxed publicly.

Here is another thing that blows "keeping anyonimity is to hard argument." CCP charges people to pay for EVE on a monthly basis or by buying PLEX. How many bank account numbers do you think CCP has access to? How many times have you heard CCP having a problem keeping those account numbers safe from falling into the hands of people that shouldn't have them? Your going to tell me they can protect valuable financial data of its clients base, but at the same time can't shield the name of CSM member from the public? Hey how many EVE players that aren't on the CSM do you know who are outed by someone looking up their character name?

Then there is this argument that people won't be "total dicks" if we know their names, and yet we have people trying to rig elections for CSM instead of explaining to me why ganking ships in Amarr space earns me universal police attention when in the story line the Mimmatar would be cheering me on for bringing down ships doing business with or working directly for the Amarr government? How about people getting around missioning to get the standings for jump clones and just joining a corp with the standings instead? How about the fact alliances don't have their own wallets and instead need a holding corp no one is to do that? How about people who bother to mission and get standings don't have precedent over other players to use production slots in Hi Sec stations? How about the fact that thematically no government doesn't charge taxes on the people of Hi Sec to fund these armies of their sitting on the borders of their space ready to invade? How about the fact that no government would simply give you perfect refining that can be trained away so there is no taxes on refining, no taxes on ratting or even a sales tax?

No the pressing question is how can we have an election system that keeps some people out and keeps other people in place. You know what we know everyone's name on the CSM and I'd say its a "****" move to ignore all these glaring problems CCP drags its feet on, but yeah elections man, that's the real problem facing EVE.

There is a disturbing amount of group think going on that allows people to unquestioningly accept such lazy arguments, to ignore major game mechanic problems that directly translate to attracting and maintaining new players to this game.

Agree.

The more players you have in the same area means less income and opportunity for the individual player. I'd like to see a sort of Path system in place for new players that could even get them in FW to PvP would be nice. It doesn't have to be direct or bound to, but something to say "hey eve has this and here is how you get involved" while in game.

Lol Brought in a corp mate from Dust and When he undocked the first words out of his mouth was "Dude I'm scared." Getting the fear of death out of them in the start helps would help as well when it comes to keeping noobs and moving them outwards.


Dust is now at 700,000+ Mercs so new player will be coming in larger numbers then last year.

As in no API and the showing of PSN Account names liked to players Merc name? Just asking to be clear mate, it's a good question.

I know that on the EVE side you may now see Employment history of a Dust Merc. It's a start, but it need to be in Dust as well.