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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
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#21 - 2013-01-25 04:57:37 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Hir Miriel wrote:
How are new players meant to know how EVE categorises things?


Everyone else seems to have managed, considering that they're the first things you see upon opening the market.


Nobody else was silly enough to go through bug reporting then forumming about it you mean.

And I can see why.

When I open the market I see a list of categories, none of them Mining Lasers.

There is nothing on the right hand side.

So I'm not sure what you see when you open the market.


Maybe try unchecking the 'only show items in station' box? Or selecting 'region' in the drop-box?

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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#22 - 2013-01-25 05:01:54 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:

Maybe try unchecking the 'only show items in station' box? Or selecting 'region' in the drop-box?



Show Only Available is unchecked.

Station was the area.


There are plenty of Miner 1s for sale, some enterprising soul is selling 100s of them for 300k, and buying out lower priced ones.

But you have to know to look for Miner 1.

If the tutorial said Miner 1, then all would be well.

That still leaves CCP with the job of making Bug Reporting friendlier.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#23 - 2013-01-25 05:06:18 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:
To me it looks like the system is designed from CCP's perspective, not the players'.


I'd say that's pretty true. They're paying more attention to getting new players into the game though, so let's see if the suggestion makes it into a release at some time in the future.

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Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#24 - 2013-01-25 05:15:35 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:
Which brings me to an old bugbear, bug reporting systems.

You should bugbear report it. Bear

Hir Miriel wrote:
Perhaps it would be an idea to think of rewarding good bug reports. Perhaps some ISK or even a Plex for truly awesome bug reporting.

A token reward would be a great idea. It could be a simple in-game vanity item like a can of Bugspray. Any player who is the first to report a new bug earns the Bugspray item.
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#25 - 2013-01-25 05:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Hir Miriel
Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:
Hir Miriel wrote:
Which brings me to an old bugbear, bug reporting systems.

You should bugbear report it. Bear

Hir Miriel wrote:
Perhaps it would be an idea to think of rewarding good bug reports. Perhaps some ISK or even a Plex for truly awesome bug reporting.

A token reward would be a great idea. It could be a simple in-game vanity item like a can of Bugspray. Any player who is the first to report a new bug earns the Bugspray item.



Good idea!

I was thinking along the lines of a tutorial mission to do a dummy bug report and get a million ISK.

Or possibly do that for all bug reports.

Not sure, CCP would probably have concerns about people gaming bug reporting, multiple copies of the same bug, or going thru a long list of known bugs and so on.

Then people would bot bug reporting and zombies would invade and it would all be over.

Or perhaps not, perhaps CCP can find a way to make bug reporting a little friendlier and maybe even rewarding.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#26 - 2013-01-25 05:54:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Hir Miriel
As an addendum...

Mission 3 of Balancing the Books gives this mining task that started this thread issue about finding a Miner 1.

Mission 6 of Balancing the Books gives a Miner 1 as part of the rewad.



Maybe newbie missions can get a look at too. If only to make them flow better.

It turns out that Industry Tutorials, Making Mountains out of Molehills, give out Miner 1s about 3 times, starting from the first mission.

The missions definitely need a look at.

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