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Epic Arc- Syndication take two.
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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-01-25 03:17:34 UTC
Charlie Conway wrote:
I like the MJD idea. Ive never used one since they were released. The MJD with Domi sounds pretty good. At first I wasnt going to try it but then I realised that Ive got Level 5 in nearly all the Drone skills, Sentry Drone Int is at 5 so the damage will be decent.
Ive used a Mega with 425s to do some null 10/10 escalations and Id snipe from 150km+ away so If the Domis not working Ill just try that.

But I'd also like the do the Epic Arc in something smaller then a BS. Anyone have any suggestion I have Elite fitting skills and fly mainly Gallente everything.

I will let you know after I try. Probably in the next 2 weeks.

Yea I'd love something smaller as well. The amount of travel in the epic arcs is somewhat annoying in a lumbering BS.

I thought about an ishtar as well. similar drone capabilities. With a MWD maybe it would be possible to essentially kite as well. It's just the large amount of explosion damage in some of the missions that sucks for a gallente pilot such as myself.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#22 - 2013-01-25 03:33:58 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Charlie Conway wrote:
I like the MJD idea. Ive never used one since they were released. The MJD with Domi sounds pretty good. At first I wasnt going to try it but then I realised that Ive got Level 5 in nearly all the Drone skills, Sentry Drone Int is at 5 so the damage will be decent.
Ive used a Mega with 425s to do some null 10/10 escalations and Id snipe from 150km+ away so If the Domis not working Ill just try that.

But I'd also like the do the Epic Arc in something smaller then a BS. Anyone have any suggestion I have Elite fitting skills and fly mainly Gallente everything.

I will let you know after I try. Probably in the next 2 weeks.

Yea I'd love something smaller as well. The amount of travel in the epic arcs is somewhat annoying in a lumbering BS.

I thought about an ishtar as well. similar drone capabilities. With a MWD maybe it would be possible to essentially kite as well. It's just the large amount of explosion damage in some of the missions that sucks for a gallente pilot such as myself.


Ishtar kiting isn't as easy as it was. ie dumping the drones and doing some wide kite that arrives back at them to briefly withdraw them for a trigger is probably going to get your drones shot. I tried this in an ishtar and had to warp out, but in hindsight my fit was substandard, so I do believe it can speed/resist tank the damage if fitted right, but you'll be spending time with no drones out as you'll need to go to a perch, orbit drones fire for a while then relocate.

If you have afk time where boats can essentailly move themselves or an alt that can move a hull, I'd probably locate both a kronos and an ishtar on the route and use the kronos which can just stand in the fire for showtime.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-01-25 03:36:59 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Charlie Conway wrote:
I like the MJD idea. Ive never used one since they were released. The MJD with Domi sounds pretty good. At first I wasnt going to try it but then I realised that Ive got Level 5 in nearly all the Drone skills, Sentry Drone Int is at 5 so the damage will be decent.
Ive used a Mega with 425s to do some null 10/10 escalations and Id snipe from 150km+ away so If the Domis not working Ill just try that.

But I'd also like the do the Epic Arc in something smaller then a BS. Anyone have any suggestion I have Elite fitting skills and fly mainly Gallente everything.

I will let you know after I try. Probably in the next 2 weeks.

Yea I'd love something smaller as well. The amount of travel in the epic arcs is somewhat annoying in a lumbering BS.

I thought about an ishtar as well. similar drone capabilities. With a MWD maybe it would be possible to essentially kite as well. It's just the large amount of explosion damage in some of the missions that sucks for a gallente pilot such as myself.


Ishtar kiting isn't as easy as it was. ie dumping the drones and doing some wide kite that arrives back at them to briefly withdraw them for a trigger is probably going to get your drones shot. I tried this in an ishtar and had to warp out, but in hindsight my fit was substandard, so I do believe it can speed/resist tank the damage if fitted right, but you'll be spending time with no drones out as you'll need to go to a perch, orbit drones fire for a while then relocate.

If you have afk time where boats can essentailly move themselves or an alt that can move a hull, I'd probably locate both a kronos and an ishtar on the route and use the kronos which can just stand in the fire for showtime.



Yea that was I meant basically for an ishtar. Burn away, drop drones, shoot what I can. Scoop and repeat around the grid until damage can be tanked.

sadly I'm about 80 days minimum from a kronos, so that's not happening this go round at least.
Charlie Conway
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2013-01-25 07:51:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Conway
How does this look?

EDIT: 330DPS Tank against Serpentis
DPS from 425mms with Spike L is not alot but it hits out to 130km+
Wardens Optimal is 97km

Total DPS while keeping everything 100km + away from me is 600
If I let things get close I can load Antimatter or Javelin and get the Garde II out
then my DPS will be 870 with a 20km Optimal for me and 38km Optimal for the Garde II.

[Dominix Navy Issue, Syndication]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Drone Scope Chip I


Warden II x5
Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Ogre II x5
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-25 13:40:03 UTC
Charlie Conway wrote:
How does this look?

EDIT: 330DPS Tank against Serpentis
DPS from 425mms with Spike L is not alot but it hits out to 130km+
Wardens Optimal is 97km

Total DPS while keeping everything 100km + away from me is 600
If I let things get close I can load Antimatter or Javelin and get the Garde II out
then my DPS will be 870 with a 20km Optimal for me and 38km Optimal for the Garde II.

[Dominix Navy Issue, Syndication]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Drone Scope Chip I


Warden II x5
Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Ogre II x5



Couple thoughts. One thing to keep in mind is that a fair number of the missions are against minmatar and minmatar style enemies, which are heavy explosive damage.

Another, honestly I would drop the mag stabs. Dropping both mag stabs and replacing with drone amps, you lose 52 turret DPS, but gain 139 with wardens. A domi the drone do most of the work, let them shine. This also lowers your cap need. You can swap a cap recharged for another omni (I always run at least 2 on a dominix) which makes your drone tracking even beter. With 2-T2 omnis your wardens get a 114km optimal. This also negates the need for the scope chip rig, which you can instead run 2- T1 CCC and one large if you want (damn they are expensive).

You maintain 37% cap stable with the MJD off, which i assume only needs to be run a cycle at a time when you jump? Havent used it yet.

Dump the Ogres, you wont use them ever. with 2 omni's your gardes will hit anything cruiser up even at close range.
Charlie Conway
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2013-01-25 14:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Conway
Cheers mate thanks for the tips Ill post here to let you know how I do. Its been a long time since Ive done missions let alone in a slow boat

EDIT: Showtime is near impossible with a Navy Domi fit I used for all the other arc missions. My tank breaks in about 1min and thats with 80% + resists across the board. I might need some help with this one,
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