Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So currently the T2 Logistics ships powers are being rivaled by the new logi cruisers, and we have 4 faction ships based on their hulls that currently suck.

T2 ships are supposed to have a "specialized" role compared to t1 and should be better than t1 at certain things but the same in others. The current T2 logi are really just only slightly better than T1 or not better at all.



So what I say should be done is re-purpose the faction cruisers based on logi hulls and make them logistics ships that are directly better than t1 in tank and speed along with some extra utility and fitting.

T2 Logistics should each get a new bonus respective to their race in support electronics systems, and have their repping abilities toned down and given to the new faction logi. As being vessels designed to amplify other vessels abilities, being able to specialize in doing things other than transferring health would make sense. The logical choice for what type of electronic support these ships provide is based in their races preferred ewar type. This would be on top of their existing repair powers.

The Basilisk should get an extra bonus to remote ECCM effectiveness, a valued component of a logistics fleet who often have falcons used against them.

The Onerios would receive a bonus to remote sensor booster effectiveness, helping counter sensor dampeners and improving the reaction time of reps.

The Scimitar and Guardian are a bit more tricky to pick for, since the only other projected anti ewar system is the tracking link which should be amarrian since they have tracking disruptors, and cap transfers which other logistics ships already receive bonuses for.

Yet a tracking link bonus could be underused in a fleet situation as well.

So the guardian could receive a more powerful bonus to cap transfers and a weaker bonus to repair modules so that other ships in the fleet can fit more repair modules instead of cap transfers.

The scimitar could have a bonus to warp core strength and mobility to rival the cynabal, yet that would be very OP, so to counter it would also have weakened repair bonuses. (Really iffy on this one)

LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR, THE CURRENT T2 LOGISTICS SHIPS WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF THE SAME REPPING POWER THEY HAVE NOW, THEY WILL HAVE MULTIPLE SUPPORT ROLES. FACTION CRUISERS WILL TAKE THEIR PLACE

Faction ships are supposed to be straight up better than their T1 counterparts in every dimension.
All navy faction logi should be based on T1 versions but just better since they blow and I don't think anyone would mind if they didn't.


My ideas for the Scimi and Guardian are pretty iffy so any better ideas would be appreciated.



EDIT: Oh yea and can T3 logi have better range to suit spider tanking? 20km would be nice.

I mean projected ECCM and remote sensor boosts edited post to reflect this.

T1 scythe is better than the scimi. Also im not proposing mini logi, im proposing logi that have an extra side roll they can perform to make them worth the isk more over t1.

woot, cap chaining and ECCM chaining basilisks, congratulations you just made an un-jammable and an almost un-killable logistics chain.

Then you no longer have a shield fleet logistics ship, and dont say you have the scimitar, because that is a small/medium gang ship

TBH, the T2 Logistics should not be touched they are well balanced the way they are at the moment, do go screwing them up, the ECCM link is cool, but throw that stuff on the navy faction variants where their reps are no where near as potent.

I dont think you understand the concept of how OP a Basilisk will become with Remote ECCM bonuses when you have a group of them in fleet.

1 Bonused Remote ECCM is alot better than 1 Local Un-bonused ECCM,
So you would still have your standard basilisk fit which incorporates a Local ECCM mod, 4 reps and 1 cap transfer, this change would make you change your high layout to 3 reps, 1 cap transfer and 1 remote eccm.
No combine an Un-bonused local ECCM and a bonused remote ECCM in a fleet with lets say 3 basilisk, you have about 120 Gravimetric Sensor Strength, thats 40 points higher than a dread or carrier, YOU CANNOT JAM IT, the only thing that would work is the Super Carriers Remote ECM Burst.

Try and tell me this is not overpowered. And knowing CCP they will probably add another high slot to allow space for the mod, so you would end up having a 4 rep, 1 cap transfer and 1 remote eccm, which means you still get the great reps and get given immune to jamming on top of it.

Im sorry but i do not support the idea of basilisk getting a Remote ECCM bonus

Also in the support of non logi ships the new basilisk would be extremely useful. Having a basilisk supporting a heavy dictor pointing a titan would be invaluable, providing an upper hand to your falcons to get a temporary edge over the enemies ewar, etc.

Yeah cause an un-jammable falcon is so not OP.............

great that you try to think to improve a game,
But dude come on i know Logi and im a great fan of my Basilisk

they are balanced as they are and the thought about this ruining idea, Hell No!!

Unjammable Capitals think i dont have to explain whats wrong with that,

this would have a disaster effect that would be FUBAR!!!
so take your mindflood thinking away from eve before you drown in it,

you sir, just invented the new improved Idiot ( think they still recruit people at Blizzard for winy WoW players)