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Total noob wanting to get into PVP...
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Bruce Saken
State Intelligence Support Activity
#1 - 2013-01-23 20:50:14 UTC
So I am maybe a month or two into the game. I started doing LVL 1 missions and wanted to make tons of ISK so I started mining. I eventually wandered to low sec and was destroyed by gankers. I am really interested in learning so that I don't have to be afraid of low sec anymore. If anyone has any ideas, thoughts, or suggestions...please help me out. Also, yes, I know I'm a noob I stated that already everyone has to start somewhere and you were once at the point I am so keep the insults to yourselves. These are generally my skills the list is missing a few...

Electronics-3
Electronics Upgrades-3
Propulsion Jamming-2
Targeting-3
Engineering-3
Shield Emission Systems-2
Shield Management-2
Shield Operation-3
Shield Upgrades-3
Gunnery-3
M. Hyb. Turret-3
Mo. Predict.-2
Rapid Firing-2
Sharpshooter-2
Weapon Upgrades-2
Hull Upg.-3
Jury Rig-1
Mechanics-3
Light Missles-3
Missle Bombardment-2
Missle Launcher Op.-4
Rapid Launch-3
Rockets-2
Target Nav. Prediction-2
Afterburner-2
Nav-3
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#2 - 2013-01-23 21:01:15 UTC
Try the recruitment channel in-game or take a look at this section of the forums. Get into an active corporation -- it'll make all the difference.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#3 - 2013-01-24 00:59:20 UTC
As the above noted, drop your PvE corp. Some of the worst places to go is a PvE corp that "has PvP experienced pilots" and give you false information or ideas.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die
Reuqh Dew
Anasta.
#4 - 2013-01-24 05:15:12 UTC
I think Eve University does a good job training new pilots.
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-24 05:44:55 UTC
Good Sir;

Just fit 2 warp core stabalizers to your rifter and your worries are over.
No more gate camp worries etc.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-01-24 08:11:16 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Good Sir;

Just fit 2 warp core stabalizers to your rifter and your worries are over.
No more gate camp worries etc.

your humble servent
SeaSaw


Spoken like a true Tribal Liberation Force pilot.

You forgot the cloak, though.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2013-01-24 09:44:14 UTC
Reuqh Dew wrote:
I think Eve University does a good job training new pilots.


I love eve uni ^^

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#8 - 2013-01-24 14:12:43 UTC
I hear RvB is a good place for some action

Oderint Dum Metuant
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#9 - 2013-01-24 14:31:32 UTC
Join a Faction Warefare corporation... best way to learn PVP and to make the necessary ISK to survive the losses which will come with this.
Dan Carter Murray
#10 - 2013-01-24 14:42:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Carter Murray
this is what i did since i was in your same shoes a little over a year ago when i started playing EVE:

join faction warfare. (set your overview for faction warfare...you can find guide on that)

choose a frigate you want to fly around in (the condor/atron/executioner/slasher is good place to start then move onto merlin/incursus/tormentor/rifter or w/e).

Fly the ship until you can get tech 2 weapons, tech 2 defenses (like MSE for shield ships and/or EANM for armor ships), tech 2 prop mod (afterburner, mwd doesn't have to be tech 2). make sure to put rigs on your ship (just tech 1 for now)

try to keep your frigate fits affordable: less than 10 mil if possible.

each engagement (win or loss) make a note about what happened, you can do this on eve-kill or a personal log. explain what happened and why you won or lost.

go to enemy controlled systems and use your system scanner to open anything that is called "novice [faction name] [dungeon type]". you kill the rat and wait for pvp. if the "plex" closes and you don't get pvp then you get a lot of loyalty points. you may also get pvp and win so you get pvp and loyalty points. you may also get pvp and lose and not get any loyalty points.

eventually you'll get into destroyers and you'll do the same thing above except you'll look for "small [faction name] [dungeon type]" plexes. you can also take assault frigates into them.

The best advice though in my opinion is to NOT jump into the biggest ship possible.

Start with frigates, move onto destroyers, then move onto either cruisers or assault frigates. Make sure you are very comfortable with your fits, combat, etc. before moving onto the next size ship.

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Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#11 - 2013-01-24 14:51:19 UTC
what dan said ^

don't join eve uni...
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2013-01-24 15:59:58 UTC
But.. I like the way eve uni do suicide low sec fleets =<

Its a fantastic way to learn!

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Ginger Barbarella
#13 - 2013-01-24 19:15:53 UTC
1. Take the Agony Unleashed BASIC course (Agony Unleashed website)
2. Join RvB
3. Join FW

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#14 - 2013-01-24 20:42:37 UTC
This will sound odd, but forget frigs at the start go to Destroyers. You simply don't have the skills to win a lot of fights in a frig, but with a Destroyer like the Thrasher you get 7 guns which add much more DPS than a typical 3 gun frig. Set your self up a bunch of cheap t1 fit Arti Thrashers and go play in low sec,

It's how we always had our brand new guys start out.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#15 - 2013-01-24 21:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Inkuras
OP, I suggest joining FW, picking a frigate you like and suits your skills, go into lowsec and find some plexes (outposts) run them, and wait for pew. Sometimes people will find and fight you, sometimes they won't. Good part is you make lots of isk in the process

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Bruce Saken
State Intelligence Support Activity
#16 - 2013-01-24 21:11:45 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
this is what i did since i was in your same shoes a little over a year ago when i started playing EVE:

join faction warfare. (set your overview for faction warfare...you can find guide on that)

choose a frigate you want to fly around in (the condor/atron/executioner/slasher is good place to start then move onto merlin/incursus/tormentor/rifter or w/e).

Fly the ship until you can get tech 2 weapons, tech 2 defenses (like MSE for shield ships and/or EANM for armor ships), tech 2 prop mod (afterburner, mwd doesn't have to be tech 2). make sure to put rigs on your ship (just tech 1 for now)

try to keep your frigate fits affordable: less than 10 mil if possible.

each engagement (win or loss) make a note about what happened, you can do this on eve-kill or a personal log. explain what happened and why you won or lost.

go to enemy controlled systems and use your system scanner to open anything that is called "novice [faction name] [dungeon type]". you kill the rat and wait for pvp. if the "plex" closes and you don't get pvp then you get a lot of loyalty points. you may also get pvp and win so you get pvp and loyalty points. you may also get pvp and lose and not get any loyalty points.

eventually you'll get into destroyers and you'll do the same thing above except you'll look for "small [faction name] [dungeon type]" plexes. you can also take assault frigates into them.

The best advice though in my opinion is to NOT jump into the biggest ship possible.

Start with frigates, move onto destroyers, then move onto either cruisers or assault frigates. Make sure you are very comfortable with your fits, combat, etc. before moving onto the next size ship.


This is probably the most helpful bit I've seen! Thank you so much for taking the time to describe it! It is much appreciated.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-24 21:26:02 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
this is what i did since i was in your same shoes a little over a year ago when i started playing EVE:

join faction warfare. (set your overview for faction warfare...you can find guide on that)

choose a frigate you want to fly around in (the condor/atron/executioner/slasher is good place to start then move onto merlin/incursus/tormentor/rifter or w/e).

Fly the ship until you can get tech 2 weapons, tech 2 defenses (like MSE for shield ships and/or EANM for armor ships), tech 2 prop mod (afterburner, mwd doesn't have to be tech 2). make sure to put rigs on your ship (just tech 1 for now)

try to keep your frigate fits affordable: less than 10 mil if possible.

each engagement (win or loss) make a note about what happened, you can do this on eve-kill or a personal log. explain what happened and why you won or lost.

go to enemy controlled systems and use your system scanner to open anything that is called "novice [faction name] [dungeon type]". you kill the rat and wait for pvp. if the "plex" closes and you don't get pvp then you get a lot of loyalty points. you may also get pvp and win so you get pvp and loyalty points. you may also get pvp and lose and not get any loyalty points.

eventually you'll get into destroyers and you'll do the same thing above except you'll look for "small [faction name] [dungeon type]" plexes. you can also take assault frigates into them.

The best advice though in my opinion is to NOT jump into the biggest ship possible.

Start with frigates, move onto destroyers, then move onto either cruisers or assault frigates. Make sure you are very comfortable with your fits, combat, etc. before moving onto the next size ship.


What this guy said is good advice.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#18 - 2013-01-24 23:47:24 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
1. Take the Agony Unleashed BASIC course (Agony Unleashed website)
2. Join good FW Corp



Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-25 18:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Barakach
Reuqh Dew wrote:
I think Eve University does a good job training new pilots.


I've been having issues getting in to EvE Uni myself. They keep telling me they want more info about me, but is not much to my background. I read all of the questions multiple times and answered to the the best of my abilities, but I feel like they want me to make up some fiction to fill in the lack of information.

It reminded me of English class and writing reports... which I mostly got Ds and Cs..

The whole thing turned me off from going the whole EvE Uni direction to learn.

I've been playing EvE for 2 years, I am now making 10b+/month casually trading with my one station trader, I am bored of just station trading and I want to pew pew, so I purchased a 38m sp char with perfect elite core/def skills. I love making friends, respect other people's time, and learn from my mistakes.

I don't know why it's so hard for me to get in to EvE Uni.

I respect what they do, but my limited experience has left me feeling a bit rejected.

My Friday rant... meh.Roll

P.S. I assume my responses to their questions were of a D grade. I really am bad at that kind of stuff.
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#20 - 2013-01-25 21:03:18 UTC
Bah to eve uni!

I totally respect what they are trying to do but man is it a PITA to get along with them....


Try looking at some of the Agony classes these are top notch to get you started in pew.

There are also others like Black Dragon Fighting Society (the feeder corp for the Black Rebel Rifter Club) and Heretic Uni etc. that while they aren't a training organisation will fly with you and give advice to questions asked etc. Normally the biggest issue new pvper's have is funding but if that isn't then TBH one of these groups will suit you better than eve uni.

Other options is FW like mine that are more than willing to help/advise on fits/tactics etc and once again if isk isn't an issue your best bet is just find an active friendly corp and go get stuff blown up!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
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