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REJOICE Citizens: War between HBC and CFC averted PAX-NULLIA!!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#141 - 2013-01-24 04:34:55 UTC
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Amazing tears here guys. Who would have thought that this time, not using the guns would cause the seas to boil with all the crying.

Just make sure to livestream your refereed war games so all of eve can see how to do it right. Then the tears will continue to flow, I assure you.

Refereed? Hah, then Boat uses Summon Blob.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Chortle Chortle
#142 - 2013-01-24 04:42:39 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Amazing tears here guys. Who would have thought that this time, not using the guns would cause the seas to boil with all the crying.

Just make sure to livestream your refereed war games so all of eve can see how to do it right. Then the tears will continue to flow, I assure you.

Refereed? Hah, then Boat uses Summon Blob.

What if Boat accidentally a structure? Does he get put in the war game penalty box?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#143 - 2013-01-24 04:44:04 UTC
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Amazing tears here guys. Who would have thought that this time, not using the guns would cause the seas to boil with all the crying.

Just make sure to livestream your refereed war games so all of eve can see how to do it right. Then the tears will continue to flow, I assure you.

Refereed? Hah, then Boat uses Summon Blob.

What if Boat accidentally a structure? Does he get put in the war game penalty box?

I think if boat starts shooting a structure everyone will happily immediately blow him up (unless he's in a supercap or something, but maybe even then). Because say no to structures.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Chortle Chortle
#144 - 2013-01-24 04:47:04 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Amazing tears here guys. Who would have thought that this time, not using the guns would cause the seas to boil with all the crying.

Just make sure to livestream your refereed war games so all of eve can see how to do it right. Then the tears will continue to flow, I assure you.

Refereed? Hah, then Boat uses Summon Blob.

What if Boat accidentally a structure? Does he get put in the war game penalty box?

I think if boat starts shooting a structure everyone will happily immediately blow him up (unless he's in a supercap or something, but maybe even then). Because say no to structures.

So how does the referee decide who won the war game? ~Isk efficiency~ maybe?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#145 - 2013-01-24 04:48:27 UTC
Chortle Chortle wrote:
So how does the referee decide who won the war game? ~Isk efficiency~ maybe?

Both sides claim they won, while everyone else claims they both lost, because ~CFC~ ~HBC~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Chortle Chortle
#146 - 2013-01-24 04:51:58 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
So how does the referee decide who won the war game? ~Isk efficiency~ maybe?

Both sides claim they won, while everyone else claims they both lost, because ~CFC~ ~HBC~

Oh, so we're all winnars? Sweet.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#147 - 2013-01-24 04:55:29 UTC
EvE is a PvP game.

Except when it is not.

Because it is a sandbox.

Except when it is not.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#148 - 2013-01-24 04:58:29 UTC
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
So how does the referee decide who won the war game? ~Isk efficiency~ maybe?

Both sides claim they won, while everyone else claims they both lost, because ~CFC~ ~HBC~

Oh, so we're all winnars? Sweet.

You seem to be an NPC alt, so you should be saying we both fail and aren't really pvping (ie: structures)

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2013-01-24 05:01:10 UTC
Kamden Line wrote:
This really says a lot about EVE that the sovereignty mechanics suck so hard that even Montolio deliberately provoking war failed to start one.

Seriously CCP, Fix Sov mechanics so my balls can stop being so blue.

This

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Chortle Chortle
#150 - 2013-01-24 05:03:03 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Chortle Chortle wrote:
So how does the referee decide who won the war game? ~Isk efficiency~ maybe?

Both sides claim they won, while everyone else claims they both lost, because ~CFC~ ~HBC~

Oh, so we're all winnars? Sweet.

You seem to be an NPC alt, so you should be saying we both fail and aren't really pvping (ie: structures)

Hey, I'm not one to judge. No one likes shooting Pocos. And everyone likes RvB.

SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#151 - 2013-01-24 06:17:02 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

I think if boat starts shooting a structure everyone will happily immediately blow him up (unless he's in a supercap or something, but maybe even then). Because say no to structures.


I got tricked into going on a Vee op a couple of weeks ago where he said we were going to dumpster people and it turned out to be a structure shoot. I honestly don't know who to trust anymore. This is why I packed everyone in Topgoon into carriers and got the hell away from Venal as fast as I could.
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#152 - 2013-01-24 08:03:45 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.


Not really. Up until this event, Mittani still had a pair. Listening to his reasoning, if I didn't know better I would say he reverted back to noob status. Did he actually promise to create a theme park war with rules and fair play? Eeesh.. he is going to get a lot of support from the carebears on this one, this is exactly the kind of game they want... consentual PvP with flowers in our hair where we are all buddies and have a coffee and biscuit afterwards. How quaint. Will you be my friend to Mittani.. you seem so nice now.

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#153 - 2013-01-24 08:35:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Proletariat Tingtango
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.


Not really. Up until this event, Mittani still had a pair. Listening to his reasoning, if I didn't know better I would say he reverted back to noob status. Did he actually promise to create a theme park war with rules and fair play? Eeesh.. he is going to get a lot of support from the carebears on this one, this is exactly the kind of game they want... consentual PvP with flowers in our hair where we are all buddies and have a coffee and biscuit afterwards. How quaint. Will you be my friend to Mittani.. you seem so nice now.

Have you at any point in your Eve career participated in a sov war?

It starts like this thing we just averted. Things escalate for good or bad reasons, everyone gets psyched up, except the guys running the logistics of this whole thing "enablers" i think is the term CCP uses, who probably sigh loudly, tie a noose around their ceiling fan, hold a gun up to their head, sigh again, open up a bottle of vodka, and start the process of "enabling" what happens next. Everyone else is like HELL YEAH LETS DO THIS. The Mittani says some :words: like a judge handing down a sentence, and everyone pops into their alphafleet ship and fleets up and sits on a titan and we're all like HELL YES FINALLY GONNA GO TO OWNTOWN, and then the FC is like BRIDGE BRIDGE BRIDGE and then you load into the next system and you're 40km from an enemy pos and then boat shows up if he wasn't there already and starts talking, and at this point someone is still going "they'll show up, just keep shooting", but you may or may not hear him because boat is definitely still talking, and when the last gun in the pos goes into reinforced, you jump to the next system and do this again, and at this point leadership has abandoned all pretense of a fight happening and are like "come on guys, we only have 30 more systems to do this in".

That's goon sov war in a sub-cap. I don't know what it's like in a capital ship, but I imagine its just the same but worse.

Edit: Two hours into the fleet, everyone is masturbating or watching movies while AFK anchored. Pornography starts getting posted, and Mumble goes silent, except for boat.
Signal11th
#154 - 2013-01-24 08:40:50 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.


Not really. Up until this event, Mittani still had a pair. Listening to his reasoning, if I didn't know better I would say he reverted back to noob status. Did he actually promise to create a theme park war with rules and fair play? Eeesh.. he is going to get a lot of support from the carebears on this one, this is exactly the kind of game they want... consentual PvP with flowers in our hair where we are all buddies and have a coffee and biscuit afterwards. How quaint. Will you be my friend to Mittani.. you seem so nice now.

Have you at any point in your Eve career participated in a sov war?

It starts like this thing we just averted. Things escalate for good or bad reasons, everyone gets psyched up, except the guys running the logistics of this whole thing "enablers" i think is the term CCP uses, who probably sigh loudly, tie a noose around their ceiling fan, hold a gun up to their head, sigh again, open up a bottle of vodka, and start the process of "enabling" what happens next. Everyone else is like HELL YEAH LETS DO THIS. The Mittani says some :words: like a judge handing down a sentence, and everyone pops into their alphafleet ship and fleets up and sits on a titan and we're all like HELL YES FINALLY GONNA GO TO OWNTOWN, and then the FC is like BRIDGE BRIDGE BRIDGE and then you load into the next system and you're 40km from an enemy pos and then boat shows up if he wasn't there already and starts talking, and at this point someone is still going "they'll show up, just keep shooting", but you may or may not hear him because boat is definitely still talking, and when the last gun in the pos goes into reinforced, you jump to the next system and do this again, and at this point leadership has abandoned all pretense of a fight happening and are like "come on guys, we only have 30 more systems to do this in".

That's goon sov war in a sub-cap. I don't know what it's like in a capital ship, but I imagine its just the same but worse.



As above, SOV war is one of the most tedious things to do in EVE. I've been on the winning side (rarely) and the loosing side (mostly) but whichever way it rolls for you it's still fecking boring.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#155 - 2013-01-24 08:51:53 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.


Not really. Up until this event, Mittani still had a pair. Listening to his reasoning, if I didn't know better I would say he reverted back to noob status. Did he actually promise to create a theme park war with rules and fair play? Eeesh.. he is going to get a lot of support from the carebears on this one, this is exactly the kind of game they want... consentual PvP with flowers in our hair where we are all buddies and have a coffee and biscuit afterwards. How quaint. Will you be my friend to Mittani.. you seem so nice now.

Have you at any point in your Eve career participated in a sov war?

It starts like this thing we just averted. Things escalate for good or bad reasons, everyone gets psyched up, except the guys running the logistics of this whole thing "enablers" i think is the term CCP uses, who probably sigh loudly, tie a noose around their ceiling fan, hold a gun up to their head, sigh again, open up a bottle of vodka, and start the process of "enabling" what happens next. Everyone else is like HELL YEAH LETS DO THIS. The Mittani says some :words: like a judge handing down a sentence, and everyone pops into their alphafleet ship and fleets up and sits on a titan and we're all like HELL YES FINALLY GONNA GO TO OWNTOWN, and then the FC is like BRIDGE BRIDGE BRIDGE and then you load into the next system and you're 40km from an enemy pos and then boat shows up if he wasn't there already and starts talking, and at this point someone is still going "they'll show up, just keep shooting", but you may or may not hear him because boat is definitely still talking, and when the last gun in the pos goes into reinforced, you jump to the next system and do this again, and at this point leadership has abandoned all pretense of a fight happening and are like "come on guys, we only have 30 more systems to do this in".

That's goon sov war in a sub-cap. I don't know what it's like in a capital ship, but I imagine its just the same but worse.

Edit: Two hours into the fleet, everyone is masturbating or watching movies while AFK anchored. Pornography starts getting posted, and Mumble goes silent, except for boat.


So once the novelty of a huge fleet wears off, it's like forming a large group to go bash your head on a wall together untill it fall down and not very often a bricklayer shows up to defend his wall.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#156 - 2013-01-24 08:52:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
That's goon sov war in a sub-cap. I don't know what it's like in a capital ship, but I imagine its just the same but worse.


"Lock the ihub, launch bombers"
"Cap up"
"It's reinforced pull bombers"
"Cyno up jump"
"Lock the ihub, launch bombers"
"Cap up"
"It's reinforced pull bombers"
"Cyno up jump"
"Stop linking that food porn blog"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2013-01-24 09:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Proletariat Tingtango
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.


Not really. Up until this event, Mittani still had a pair. Listening to his reasoning, if I didn't know better I would say he reverted back to noob status. Did he actually promise to create a theme park war with rules and fair play? Eeesh.. he is going to get a lot of support from the carebears on this one, this is exactly the kind of game they want... consentual PvP with flowers in our hair where we are all buddies and have a coffee and biscuit afterwards. How quaint. Will you be my friend to Mittani.. you seem so nice now.

Have you at any point in your Eve career participated in a sov war?

It starts like this thing we just averted. Things escalate for good or bad reasons, everyone gets psyched up, except the guys running the logistics of this whole thing "enablers" i think is the term CCP uses, who probably sigh loudly, tie a noose around their ceiling fan, hold a gun up to their head, sigh again, open up a bottle of vodka, and start the process of "enabling" what happens next. Everyone else is like HELL YEAH LETS DO THIS. The Mittani says some :words: like a judge handing down a sentence, and everyone pops into their alphafleet ship and fleets up and sits on a titan and we're all like HELL YES FINALLY GONNA GO TO OWNTOWN, and then the FC is like BRIDGE BRIDGE BRIDGE and then you load into the next system and you're 40km from an enemy pos and then boat shows up if he wasn't there already and starts talking, and at this point someone is still going "they'll show up, just keep shooting", but you may or may not hear him because boat is definitely still talking, and when the last gun in the pos goes into reinforced, you jump to the next system and do this again, and at this point leadership has abandoned all pretense of a fight happening and are like "come on guys, we only have 30 more systems to do this in".

That's goon sov war in a sub-cap. I don't know what it's like in a capital ship, but I imagine its just the same but worse.

Edit: Two hours into the fleet, everyone is masturbating or watching movies while AFK anchored. Pornography starts getting posted, and Mumble goes silent, except for boat.


So once the novelty of a huge fleet wears off, it's like forming a large group to go bash your head on a wall together untill it fall down and not very often a bricklayer shows up to defend his wall.


The one or two times both sides accidentally run into each-other, or organize a fight, i don't know how it happens, and you get the big hundreds on hundreds or thousands-on-thousands brawls that require CCP to reinforce the node, it's kind of fun. Tidi is painfully slow and if your computer is not good you won't be having fun at all, but under the right circumstances huge fleets are cool, the gamble you take on the fight happening is very much not in your favor though, and a pos shoot is more likely than any fun being had.

The war isn't won this way though, and sov changes hands to the ******* who is most willing to blue-ball and frustrate the other. It's set up so that big fights and isk wars aren't as important as making sure your enemy doesn't want to fleet up. This isn't actually fun and nobody was willing to do it for Montolio's inferiority complex.
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
#158 - 2013-01-24 09:15:43 UTC
Yes, I am a noob. And yes, I am very seldom in Nullsec. And yes, I have never participated in a "SOV-war".

So, propably it's uninformed bias on my side. But still, after reading the following comment from Shadoo on the evenews24-site:

Shadoo wrote:
Cry all you like. It doesn't change the fact that all the whiners have no idea how to maintain tech and power. I play both sides and I win and win so get over it. While the whining faggots all cry for war its not going to happen. Mont does the wrong thing and we'll take his tech and rejoin goons. Goons do the wrong thing and we take their tech. Win ******* win so tears that way.


I got the same impression as Dinsdale Pirannha:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same. It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation. [...] The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.


Winning is when you maintain tech and power sounds the same to me like winning is when you have the highest isk/hour ratio.
Signal11th
#159 - 2013-01-24 09:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:
Yes, I am a noob. And yes, I am very seldom in Nullsec. And yes, I have never participated in a "SOV-war".

So, propably it's uninformed bias on my side. But still, after reading the following comment from Shadoo on the evenews24-site:

Shadoo wrote:
Cry all you like. It doesn't change the fact that all the whiners have no idea how to maintain tech and power. I play both sides and I win and win so get over it. While the whining faggots all cry for war its not going to happen. Mont does the wrong thing and we'll take his tech and rejoin goons. Goons do the wrong thing and we take their tech. Win ******* win so tears that way.


I got the same impression as Dinsdale Pirannha:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same. It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation. [...] The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.


Winning is when you maintain tech and power sounds the same to me like winning is when you have the highest isk/hour ratio.



Humm the force is strong with this one.....

Of course the above is semi true, the majority of 0.0 dwellers like the odd scrap now and again but really they like fattening their wallets just as much, it's just human nature,

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#160 - 2013-01-24 09:24:52 UTC
Andski wrote:
Zloco Crendraven wrote:
What, of you guys gone nuts. The evidences are all around forums.


wow that's airtight and you've proved your claims beyond a doubt

write up an email to security@ccpgames.com, pronto!


Raad better and focus more. I stated that the evidence of you guys going nuts are all over forums.

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.