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Pay to win? Game Breaking?
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Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-24 03:50:44 UTC
Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Doing this exists in the form of paying RL currency for a second account, why not scale price/functionality down and give us these camera spy drones thingies that look like this.

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-24 03:54:58 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Would it be pay to win if, CCP sold drones for AUR that lets you look through gates and see what's on the other side? Doing this exists in the form of paying RL currency for a second account, why not scale price/functionality down and give us these camera spy drones thingies that look like this.


Yes, it's pay to win because not everyone would be willign to spend real life money on something like that. Besides, you can get this nfo on the map already if you know what to look for.

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3 - 2013-01-24 03:55:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
I don't know about AUR necessarily, but those drones would be awesome.

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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-24 03:57:00 UTC
Yes it's pay to win, furthermore, it's a terrible idea.
Orzo Torasson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-24 03:57:53 UTC
Alternatively, you could not fly your big and slow aligning ship unscouted through lowsec. It's free, too.
Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-24 04:12:16 UTC
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.

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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#7 - 2013-01-24 04:15:47 UTC
I should place a bounty on you for posting such a terrible idea.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-01-24 04:16:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.

Paying money for a second account is functionally no different than having another player so far as the game is concerned. That being the case is cooperating cheating?
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-24 04:18:30 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.


Do you have a better way to curb Gold or isk farming? Plex is fine. What's next? Spending Aurum for T3 Weapons...We've been down this path before. They damn near burned Jita to the ground.

No Aurum for any type of strategic advantage.

Aurum is fine for cosmetic. I'd love to see Aurum to have custom paint jobs or Corp Logos or Pirate eye patches.

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terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-24 04:18:54 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Everyone who replied is a noob.


Lol.
Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-24 04:20:47 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
I should place a bounty on you for posting such a terrible idea.


Please do I want to be super badass.

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Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-24 04:25:39 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.


Do you have a better way to curb Gold or isk farming? Plex is fine. What's next? Spending Aurum for T3 Weapons...We've been down this path before. They damn near burned Jita to the ground.

No Aurum for any type of strategic advantage.

Aurum is fine for cosmetic. I'd love to see Aurum to have custom paint jobs or Corp Logos or Pirate eye patches.


Using AUR as I proposed would make life alot easier for everyone using trial accounts as scouts.

Also rejecting Aur and accepting PLEX is pure hypocrisy.

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Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-01-24 04:39:46 UTC
BAN ALTS

hello
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-24 04:40:46 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.


Do you have a better way to curb Gold or isk farming? Plex is fine. What's next? Spending Aurum for T3 Weapons...We've been down this path before. They damn near burned Jita to the ground.

No Aurum for any type of strategic advantage.

Aurum is fine for cosmetic. I'd love to see Aurum to have custom paint jobs or Corp Logos or Pirate eye patches.


Using AUR as I proposed would make life alot easier for everyone using trial accounts as scouts.

Also rejecting Aur and accepting PLEX is pure hypocrisy.

It's possible that CCP thinks the act of scouting should require a character and not a drone, aur/plex/cash or whatever else not really mattering.

Multiple accounts being pay to win is another issue though. Cooperative play using 2 accounts is just that. 2 characters cooperating. The game doesn't really care if the same person is controlling both or 2 separate persons. Is this game breaking? No more than giving someone plex in exchange for scouting you really.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2013-01-24 04:41:03 UTC
Implying Implications wrote:
BAN ALTS

NO ALTS... EVERRRRRRR

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-24 04:44:13 UTC
I dont see why owing 2 accounts is an issue. As long as you are paying for them, whats the issue?

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-01-24 04:45:19 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.

So why do you need a DRONE to do it?

Sounds like you're still worried that your second account will get shot.

You'll break a plex to buy a drone to send through a gate, and ***** that people already do that by using second accounts?
You'll break a plex.
A plex.
Plex.

Why wouldn't you just use the plex for a second account?
We both know you'd use isk to buy the plex to get the Aur. If you actually had a brain.

stoicfaux
#18 - 2013-01-24 04:45:38 UTC
It should be LP, not Aurum. The Empyrean Age described how the Gallente and Caldari send very expensive cloaked drones through gates to track enemy ship movements on the other side (i.e. to look for a military build-up.)

-1 for Aurum/Pay to Win
+1 for having Peeping Tom spy drones
-1 for even proposing such an idea when CCP can't even let us look outside a station window to see who's on grid before undocking.

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Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-24 05:01:04 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
So spending RL money or Plex for a second account isn't? Everyone who replied is a noob.

So why do you need a DRONE to do it?

Sounds like you're still worried that your second account will get shot.

You'll break a plex to buy a drone to send through a gate, and ***** that people already do that by using second accounts?
You'll break a plex.
A plex.
Plex.

Why wouldn't you just use the plex for a second account?
We both know you'd use isk to buy the plex to get the Aur. If you actually had a brain.



O_O *sudden realisation*

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BobZumda
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-01-24 05:14:56 UTC
Or you could do something cheap like organize an intel channel for defense or get together with other PvPers and get a joint offensive intel channel. I imagine those exist if you look for the,
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