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podding in high sec
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Tobby Jug
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-24 00:40:11 UTC
Tonight i decided to try out the new suspect mechanic as i have been gone for a few months. I went in a shuttle to a can and took from it and instantly got shot, so i went to a far off space station and got into the rookie ship that was waiting for me there. I undocked and decide to go back to the station whence i came, thinking that the worst that could happen is i lose my rookie ship, but instead i got podded.
I am not whining, i just want to understand the mechanics, can a suspect be freely podded in high sec without consequence to the killer even though the suspect has not shot a single shot?
Sixx Spades
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-01-24 00:41:17 UTC
Yes

Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future.
Tobby Jug
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-01-24 00:43:52 UTC
thanks.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-24 00:48:57 UTC
Another thread solved instantly in 1 word Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-24 00:49:10 UTC
To clarify for anyone reading this who might be confused; Once you get a suspect timer (which lasts for 15 minutes usually, iirc), you can be shot at multiple times, regardless of what you are flying.

Fair targets are not limited to ships, but also capsules. Additionally, being killed, even being podded, does not remove the timer. You simply have to wait it out. That is to say, if you are killed and podded, then undock from the system your medical clone was in, you can be killed and podded again, provided it is within that 15 minute timeframe.
Tobby Jug
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-24 00:57:38 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
To clarify for anyone reading this who might be confused; Once you get a suspect timer (which lasts for 15 minutes usually, iirc), you can be shot at multiple times, regardless of what you are flying.

Fair targets are not limited to ships, but also capsules. Additionally, being killed, even being podded, does not remove the timer. You simply have to wait it out. That is to say, if you are killed and podded, then undock from the system your medical clone was in, you can be killed and podded again, provided it is within that 15 minute timeframe.


Great, thanks for the explanation, many thanks.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-01-24 01:05:38 UTC
There's a channel in game for this.
It's called "Help".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#8 - 2013-01-24 01:10:56 UTC
Don't go suspect in trade hubs.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Tobby Jug
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-24 01:15:45 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Don't go suspect in trade hubs.



yep, great advice. even better, dont go suspect anywhere .
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2013-01-24 01:17:52 UTC
Tobby Jug wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Don't go suspect in trade hubs.



yep, great advice. even better, dont go suspect anywhere .

Where's the fun in that?

Don't go suspect in a shuttle unless you're scooping gank loot. Bring something that can fight.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#11 - 2013-01-24 01:24:16 UTC
Lets take this opportunity to thank CCP for our neat new Highsec PVP mechanics. :) ( I can't believe I just said that)

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2013-01-24 01:59:53 UTC
Note that any engagement where you can legally shoot someone in high sec now allows you to also legally pod them. This will include the dueling system, since it is based on the Limited Engagement timer.

Suspect games are fun, just learn how to get your pod out.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-01-24 02:02:31 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Note that any engagement where you can legally shoot someone in high sec now allows you to also legally pod them. This will include the dueling system, since it is based on the Limited Engagement timer.

Suspect games are fun, just learn how to get your pod out.


Everyone who spent their first 5 years in Eve as a pirate already knows this game... and plays it well Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-01-24 02:17:10 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's a channel in game for this.
It's called "Help".


And it is . . . totally worthless. Much more bad advice than good. Run by morons. Ooops. I should have said ISD wannabes. :)
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-01-24 02:19:04 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Tobby Jug wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Don't go suspect in trade hubs.



yep, great advice. even better, dont go suspect anywhere .

Where's the fun in that?

Don't go suspect in a shuttle unless you're scooping gank loot. Bring something that can fight.


Now, let's see. Just how much gank loot can a shuttle hold? People want to know. :)
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-01-24 02:21:24 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Note that any engagement where you can legally shoot someone in high sec now allows you to also legally pod them. This will include the dueling system, since it is based on the Limited Engagement timer.

Suspect games are fun, just learn how to get your pod out.


Everyone who spent their first 5 years in Eve as a pirate already knows this game... and plays it well Big smile



Sorry, but many people who started out as pirates 5 years ago played poorly then, and still do.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-01-24 02:46:28 UTC
Not Politically Correct wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's a channel in game for this.
It's called "Help".


And it is . . . totally worthless. Much more bad advice than good. Run by morons. Ooops. I should have said ISD wannabes. :)


No, most of the advice in the channel is good.
In any case you would have very easily found the answer to your question there.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-01-24 02:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Not Politically Correct
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Not Politically Correct wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's a channel in game for this.
It's called "Help".


And it is . . . totally worthless. Much more bad advice than good. Run by morons. Ooops. I should have said ISD wannabes. :)


No, most of the advice in the channel is good.
In any case you would have very easily found the answer to your question there.


Never asked a question there. It may have taken me longer to learn, but I learned truth, not fiction.
Google Voices
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-01-24 02:58:22 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Don't go suspect in trade hubs.


I think what you meant was....

"Don't go suspect until you actually read the dev blog, and have some idea how the mechanics work."


"Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that “one day Veritas will come up to me and say ‘hey I fixed off-grid boosting’”, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle."
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-01-24 11:25:33 UTC
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