EVE General Discussion

This is partially valid. Not everyone mines. However, you can't be serious if you think you can make the same amount of iskies in high that you can in null regarding actually mining. Volume, type (of ore able to be mined) and production capabilities alone pretty much knock the last part of the statement out of the park. Simply not true.



This is hilarious because it is totally true 95% of the time, especially the freed convict. Well put.



Obviously based on your personal experience, but definitely not mine.



I feel like the majority of highsec players treat null in this regard. Think about it for a minute. Literally the only difference between missions and sites (in null) is the fact that you get "quest text" with missions. The bounties on sites make up for the "mission bonus" that you receive. After that, null iskies in sites destroy mission iskies, bar none. If you want to go big, go rat in a carrier for funsies, watch the 34m tickers roll in every 5 minutes then come back and tell me level 4 missions are more profitable. Same as above, it's not going to happen.



Your opinion on PVP is your own. Tactics though, are varied throughout the Eve cluster. Some FC's prefer small fast gangs, some go for T1 roams for cheap fun, some prefer blobs, some prefer blops. Some shield, some armor, etc etc etc. There is no one way to go about fleet combat in Eve. While you can argue that fleet ops can sometimes take a dull, repetitive flavor...that's just because CCP doesn't regularly change the HP of structures. Therefore, to get something done it requires the same dull action to pop it. I LOATHE sbu's. Doesn't mean that defines my entire pvp experience.

In otherwords, you want CCP to remove all non-consensual PvP.

You're a bad.

I get it.

"EVE is dying" and you can save it by removing PvP from high sec.

Because you're a bad.

Reading is one thing. Comprehending is another. :)

If you make the claim that the person in question is trolling doesn't that mean they have never posted a meaningful post?

The person in question has arrived at the wrong conclusion with the data present and feels the need to assert this incorrect view.

The data does indeed clearly show that the majority of activity is done solo. The majority of activities at base level in EvE are purely solo mechanically. Mining, Missioning, Ratting, Industry and Trade are almost always solo activities as there is usually no benefit at all of another player being there. Therefore, even if a person is within a loose group or tight group structure they do quite a lot of things "solo". This is the step where the person makes the incorrect assumption. Just because your base activity is solo does not make you a solo player.

Where I see CCP having a problem is that the base activities of actual solo players are identical to those who are not solo players. Therefore they have to consider any activity that they add for soloist against the backdrop of what people can do with the same content as a group or how the same content can be manipulated with a group structure. If you make it harder for players to interact with the soloists activity but make it as profitable as current solo activities or close enough to it then group players will simply manipulate those mechanics. And this is why CCP doesn't really want to commit but will make noise about to assuage the pure soloists.

Let me put it this way... Iceland is a cold, harsh an often dark place. Some people, though, choose to stay inside heated and well-lit buildings and make video games instead of going out fishing and farming. Meanwhile, Spain is a sunny, warm and often harsh place, and some people will choose to stay inside air conditioned buildings and play video games instead of going out and have a drink with some friends until 1 AM.


Every player haves *his* EVE, and to some it's a little place with many boring or unrewarding soloable activities which haven't changed for years. Most of the time, meeting other players in EVE mean diminishing returns (less fun/money/freedom) and/or a serious risk of suffering catatrophic losses (of money/trust/time invested). Some people advocate to make EVE less harsh, others to make it more harsh. I just will advocate that EVE allows players to "stay inside" if they choose to, because that's what most are doing yet... until they leave.

More / better soloable mechanics, and the iteration of current soloable mechanics to extend their expiracy date should be in the plans, be them FiS or WiS.

More soloable mechanics like lvl 4 but easier and more isk per hour? Or let a bunch of dudes "stay inside" and emote each other? No, it's called staying docked.

More fun != more isk.

As long as any soloable content pays well enough to account for the occasional loss of content-appropriate hardware it's all good.

Thinking that isk=fun is how a lot of people end up burning out on the game.

More reward != fun != ISK

The point is to allow players to find a point, their own personal reason, for playing EVE.

CCP has focused too much in players whose point is to band with others as that leads to !!Headlines!!, but then it turns that most players play the game for their own reasons and CCP has been making their life miserable or just left them in a corner with only a few toys for years since Apochrypha.

Except that is not the "vocal minority". That is the target audience. By your own observations stated in that very post, the vast majority of what you see is "unfriendly". That's EVE bro.