Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While reloading the module cannot cycle.

Then it is completely useless. In order for this module to make sense at all, it needs to be able to run as a 3/4 normal rep all the time, with the burst on demand. You need to add a feature like I suggested a while back; a complement to the "heat" tab that lets us switch on the paste-burning burst mode at will. So you can load it up and use it as a weaker normal rep, and when you click the "overcharge" tab, then it starts burning the nanite paste and goes into 2.25x rep mode. When it's empty, it should reload while continuing to run as a normal repper.

I like this a lot. Supercharged overheat mode that actively consumes nanite repair paste.

It is true that the module should be able to run when reloading, but I understand why it doesn't.

Actually, I don't mind there being a more "active" component to active repping, but if that more active mechanic is going to be attached to heat, then I don't think that's reasonable to ask of armor tankers to always incur heat damage. This adds yet more skills to train (more thermodynamics levels, nanite paste time redux and use efficiency) that are often considered optional.

If the AAR is set up in a way that it will consume paste while being overheated for no heat damage, then I think that's an acceptable change to the module that makes it more interesting, encourages a different mechanic for armor, and still keeps the heat level (and costs) under control. So, when you run out of paste in the module, the rack would begin to generate heat (and damage) normally.

The OH rig, then, would be more interesting, since the bonus would be applied during heat only, which its damaging aspect (to surrounding mods on the rack) would be mitigated due to paste being loaded.

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Not like nano paste or batteries are exactly expensive enough to even worry about that.

@Fozzie
Thanks for reading trough all of all crap and actually using some ideas, in this thread and BC rebalance. I really hate all things with ancillary in name and hope they go away but i guess some new modules had to be introduced. But please dont add another skill to armor tanking, especially not a skill that gives such small bonus and is still a must train since it affects speed. The gap in skill requirements for shield and armor tanking are already huge.

You are looking at this the wrong way, a really wrong way. The reason i fit 3x armor reps on a ship is because i want to have the most repair amount i can without gimping everything else, that is the main goal of my fit, the thing i am building for. Even if they buff all armor repairers to rep 5x more i still wont reduce their number. If i think that armor repairer is worth more for my goal than something else you can be sure i will think the same when they buff them.

Ppl are not fitting tripple reps because they want this much armor repaired, the fit them because they want the most armor repaired possible. And that is the main reason i dislike this module, because it does absolutely nothing new, its just plain better armor rep.

Why not just use the overheat function to tell the module when to consume the nanite paste and when to give you the 3x rep boost. Being able to switch Between 3/4 rep and 3x rep would give the module that little something extra.


Wiv

That moron friendly nature plays in very well with missile ships as well. Crazy right?

In short are we getting XL-armor reps and XL-AARs ??

Because despite all you efforts, and believe me I do understand you have to make choices and doing your best with in the envelope you're given, I can barely see active armor tanking become something worth of any effort but for gate and station camping or the very situational case.

On the other side of the coin, these proposed changes are bringing even bigger benefits to golden hull resist bonus bricked space pixels while increasing significantly the downsides of active tanking.
Please notice that I'm not saying this is going to make active tanking worst than it was before because it would be a lie but I can't agree with anyone saying this is the right way to balance.

These changes are increasing the number of sills required, the number of slots required for a semi useful active tanking, changing the already extremely heavy penalties from speed/agility to even less pg/cap available making the choice almost impossible. You tell me "yeah but you have the choice", well it isn't one when you can choose in between horrible mods and other horrible mods unless, once again, you're playing station and gate games where some will be less horrible than others.

Active tanking is not in need of more downsides but the total opposite and I believe you can do it, be creative because you can tbh !!
Choosing active armor tanking should mean you choose to NOT FIT A SINGLE FOCKING PLATE ! because you want to move fast, be semi agile and get fast enough in to your targets face and melt it down !!
Light armor (hp) tanking based on resist profile tanking (active/passive) with a single rep allowing you at the cost of some extra cap (booster charges) to significantly increase your HP rep amount for a very short amount of time, but still be able to normally rep if no booster charges are used.

It's not a choice than have to add even more mods+cap booster charges to actually try to do something out of station.gate games, it's a pain, it's not fun, it's not worth the effort when you can do much better just by ASB fit your ship and fill those lows with dmg mods.
This is how you should think to figure out how you should balance active armor tanking: am I better using armor or shield tank for a fight that will not last more than a couple minutes anyway?

- Repair Paste? Great idea but aren't there a ton of PI products that have little use currently? Why not choose something different just for some diversity but of the same size? Microfiber Shielding for example. Just a thought.