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REJOICE Citizens: War between HBC and CFC averted PAX-NULLIA!!

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2013-01-23 20:40:57 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
Just Rvb it for now, Goons are blue, Test is red, everybody in frigs and fight, meet in syndicate, atleast its something for now, blow off some steam, have fun in the process Blink

Edit: just think of it, the biggest frig fight in EvE history.


So duel issue is problem ,but arranged fights are not? If you want RvB join them.

Anyway consensual pvp will be now cool I guess,even people that spited on that the most are now ok with that since last night .All that cause SOV structure grinding is boring and CCP is to blame cause they will not fight awww.

Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure.
Dave Stark
#102 - 2013-01-23 20:49:27 UTC
Ana Fox wrote:
Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure.

you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2013-01-23 20:51:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Andski wrote:
i also find it hilarious that you're saying that suicide ganking, which is named as such because of a mechanic meant to discourage nonconsensual PvP in hisec, is part of what makes eve a "pvp game"



Almost seems like you'd prefer to not go to war to shoot someone else's property in order to preserve the integrity of OTEC or something.

Or wait, that's right... "mechanics" of sov make's it "boring". Much more fun NOT pvping unless it's agreed I forgot. Nevermind the fact that other ships wouldn't show up to defend or anything. We don't want to step on the toes of our superbff's or insult anyone!

Totally innocent question; have you ever participated in a sov war?



Yes.



Your lifetime record of 10 kills and 21 losses, all in T1 sub-BS ships in Empire suggests otherwise.



If you look up my post history, I did mention playing Eve when it first came out while I was playing Everquest. This account is only going on 7 months old, and not based on pvp (which I end up doing anyways).

In fact, I'm pretty sure there is a Goon has my Abaddon KM quit recently in Stain. Perhaps you need to brush up on your internet spacelaywer and investigative skills there sir. But then, you did mention "suggest".

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2013-01-23 20:52:05 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Ana Fox wrote:
Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure.

you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option.


Yes ofc ,but you cant say that is main reason like it was all over forum today .
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2013-01-23 20:56:17 UTC
Gianna Thirostin wrote:
Nah, they dont want it buried. They timed it so they could point at this "attempt at war" as the reason CCP should "fix sov" this summer when its their content that made null what it is today

From what I gather this little spat has been brewing since June/July of 2012. That is a lot of tinfoil for a long con, to show CCP how bad Dominion sov sucks.

CCP Greyscale wrote:
•Making something tedious will not stop players doing it if it's very clearly the best option. They'll do it, and they'll hate it
◦See: everything involving starbases, Dominion sov warfare.


Clearly the best option was to NOT go to war, if at all possible, otherwise we would be seeing people blow up structures cause it's "fun" and not an eye gougingly tedious grind.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Dave Stark
#106 - 2013-01-23 21:04:12 UTC
Ana Fox wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Ana Fox wrote:
Funny they didnt had problem with structures in other regions ,but hey go figure.

you don't stop playing a game just because the mechanics are horrible, especially when not playing the game isn't an option.


Yes ofc ,but you cant say that is main reason like it was all over forum today .


sure it is. people want to blow each other up, and sov mechanics are crap. that's why instead of invading each other they're going to turn up to a set location at a set time and then shoot each other rather than "playing the game properly"
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
#107 - 2013-01-23 21:33:11 UTC
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#108 - 2013-01-23 21:48:56 UTC
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
Soooo is this the thread where the Null Sec people are telling the Hi Sec people they are playing wrong or the one where Hi sec people are telling the Null Sec people they are playing wrong.

I got lost, sorry.



The mentality in high sec and null sec is the same.
It has always been the same when it comes to wealth generation.

Don't go to war if the price in lost income or assets outweighs the potential "fun" in a fight.

Null sec just does not want that fact widely known within the game's community.
It ruins the image they have carefully cultivated as some hard core crew.

Only people who can say they are hard core are some of the RP FW guys, the inhabitants of faction null sec, and most wh crews.

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.
Josef Djugashvilis
#109 - 2013-01-23 21:52:27 UTC

Cute, but you guys in highsec are still the bottom of the barrel. Sorry.[/quote]


That would depend upon which way up the barrel is when one is looking at it.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#110 - 2013-01-23 21:54:32 UTC
Andski wrote:
but seriously if you want game content so much, we can bring both coalitions to Jita with 6000 Tornadoes

that way you hiseccers will also enjoy content that would otherwise be restricted to 0.0


Do.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#111 - 2013-01-23 22:00:36 UTC
Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....

Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....

Boooorrrrriiiinnnnggggg....

...now back to the conformal grey goo that is nullsec. Roll

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#112 - 2013-01-23 22:14:47 UTC
I guess they can go back to moaning about highsec players unwillingness to engage them in non-consensual PvP.

While carrying on making huge amounts of isk in super-safe null space!

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#113 - 2013-01-23 22:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: S'Way
Given what happened the last time PL tried to headshot VFK, plus the fact they'd be facing the sov grinding behemoth of DBRB, it was never going to come to a full on sov-war. Suprised anyone thought otherwise really.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#114 - 2013-01-23 22:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Dave Stark wrote:
please, provide me with a link of a post proving any RMT activity.


Google search for "eve rmt" yields 1,350,000 results. Hmmm let's see...

How about CCP's own devblog where the claim to have banned 6200 RMTers back in 2009?

Nice little article on the magnitude of botting and CCP's campaign against RMT. Be sure to read the first comment.

Or heck, just skip all that and head straight over to Iskbank and get yourself a proper CCP lifetime banning if you really want to test the strength of your denial.

Or... and read fast because CCP will no doubt either erase all of this or lock the thread. Sorry.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2013-01-23 23:12:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

The sov null sec bunch are just as risk adverse as any high sec group.
This week's events prove that.



It isn't risk aversion, it is boredom aversion.

Sov grinding just isn't fun. It is a lot like mining. Lock on to unmoving object and sit there for hours. Boring.


Montolio wanted a sov grind, and all the parties that would end up having to fleet up to do the grinding (GSF and PL) said "No".

Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#116 - 2013-01-23 23:14:02 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles.


So, you're both consenting to being attacked?

Iiiiinteresting. Lol

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#117 - 2013-01-23 23:16:13 UTC
Anyone who honestly believed that Test or Goons would risk what they are sitting on top of, knowing that the golden well will dry up in a few years (Once CCP is bought out by someone who actually fixes the moon goo situation, or some miracle happens and they listen to the advice of market and trend analysts instead of doing what they think will work), knew that there wouldnt be a war.

Cooler heads were sure to prevail, once each side thought about potential isk disruption. Spice must flow, yo.
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2013-01-23 23:19:14 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Instead, we just reset each other so we can have fun spaceship battles.


So, you're both consenting to being attacked?

Iiiiinteresting. Lol



That's the idea. So long as it is shooting spaceships and not structures.

Granted, some alliances in CFC have already been neutral to parts of HBC for months now, so for some it is just business as usual. The only real news is avoiding another long boring sov grind. And that is good, because between the 2 blocs, they have ground 8 some regions over the past year. Grinding structures is not the content we want to be creating right now.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#119 - 2013-01-23 23:19:17 UTC
Another terrible thread from another NPC douche...

Ho wait...

No, it's still dam horrible.

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Dave Stark
#120 - 2013-01-23 23:25:35 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
please, provide me with a link of a post proving any RMT activity.


Google search for "eve rmt" yields 1,350,000 results. Hmmm let's see...

How about CCP's own devblog where the claim to have banned 6200 RMTers back in 2009?

Nice little article on the magnitude of botting and CCP's campaign against RMT. Be sure to read the first comment.

Or heck, just skip all that and head straight over to Iskbank and get yourself a proper CCP lifetime banning if you really want to test the strength of your denial.

Or... and read fast because CCP will no doubt either erase all of this or lock the thread. Sorry.


i wasn't denying that RMT happens.

i was mainly asking the person implying the whole "lets not shoot each other" thing was caused by RMT, of which he provided 0 proof (probably because there is none)