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I know the w-space storyline has been somewhat put on hold for the moment but there some things that still bug me about the whole Talocan/Sleeper thing, especially after Templar One. The book has done a good job of explaining a lot about who the Sleepers were, but on the subject of the Talocan is was remarkably silent. This gives the nice bonus of the Talocan being a lot more mysterious than the Sleepers now and a huge question mark .

If you look around in the game at the sites and items connection to w-space there seem to be some links between the Talocan and the Sleepers. Some technologies seem to be shared by both races and indicate they had an involvement with each other, friendly or otherwise at some point.

What strikes me as very odd and annoying is when you come across a Talocan ship and receive hull sections, the item description clearly says it's a part of a Sleeper vessel. Which if true and not simply an error, could mean the Talocan are basicly nothing more than an earlier incarnation of the Sleepers.

The Sleepers were a big part of the Second Jove Empire, we still don't know much about the First. If the Talocan were either part of the First or early Sleepers, we have yet another Ancient race that is just an offshoot of the Jove. Maybe it is just me but I'm hoping this is not the case. I'd like to imagine that during the Dark Ages there was a similar dynamic with the Ancient Empires as there is with the current ones and that at some point some of that forgotten history comes back to haunt New Eden. That they're not just subdivisions of ancient Jove and there are still some skeletons hiding in the closet . There is some indication that Yan Jung may have been in a conflict and lost. Maybe the Talocan and Sleepers ended up at war at some point as well and there are old weapons and traps still out there we could end up triggering.

This isn't exactly a question many people will have a real answer for but I do wonder what others who are or have been delving into the w-space backstory think about all of this and what they feel. I know some of you have been juggling with theories about Talocan are Sleepers and similar so what is your opinion?

My current theory of choice is that they and the sleepers are the same people. Maybe Talocan is just Architect or Sleeper in their language/jove language.

Other possibilities:
- They were the bodyguard/military chaste of the Jove empire, and some of them moved to Anoikis to protect the Sleepers. When they saw that they couldn't sustain their numbers, they created the sleeper drones to guard forever in their place. That would explain why the Talocan ships can be understood both as talocan and sleeper.

- They were a nation conquered by one of the Jovian empires, which spanned all world known. They moved to Anoikis for an unknown reason.

- They were an actual alien civilization originated in Anoikis and of which the jovians don't want to talk about, and were subsequently killed by the jove before having the architects move into Anoikis. Unlikely.

- They were an empire enemy to the jove, and they moved to Anoikis to wage war on their most weak bonds, but were eventually defeated.

Edit: The name of it was bugging me, so I googled a bit. As you may know, CCP has been known to use RL ancient mythology names (some mesopothamic goddess comes to mind) in a sort of shout out. So I suspected Talocan was an american native word. Aparently 'Tlalocan' was a sort of heaven in aztec mythos. Could the Talocan be the religious chaste of the Jove, exilied to the unknown limits of WH space when the Jove empire left religion behind?

I don't know about unlikely. Has anyone ever checked out the terrestrial planets in Anoikis to check for ruins?

I sort of hope this isn't true, because it feels like the mystery is suddenly...not that mysterious.

True but they don't tell us every tiny detail. We know the Sleeper left the Jove Empire and start moving away from the rest of them eventually going so far to take extreme measures in order to ensure the Jove couldn't follow them any more. We don't really know how many there were, or what and/or who they took along in their Exodus. If went the route to where the Jove eventually established their current Empire they could have stumbled on the Talocan ruins in Otitoh and learned where they went and followed ensuring nobody could do the same. Maybe they used one of those gates that are mentioned in the Ani constellation using tech only they had access to and the rest of the Jove didn't.