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Dev blog: Team Super Friends does numbers

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#41 - 2013-01-23 15:50:01 UTC
First, I told you so. Smile

Second, we would love to see the metrics on kill rights (sold, deaths resulting, highest price sold for, where, etc.).

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2013-01-23 15:54:17 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
First, I told you so. Smile

Second, we would love to see the metrics on kill rights (sold, deaths resulting, highest price sold for, where, etc.).



what's the "I told you so" for?

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#43 - 2013-01-23 16:00:57 UTC
CCP Punkturis showing us her pink pie (charts).... where's the link to that innuendo thread?

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#44 - 2013-01-23 16:05:27 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Two step wrote:
Either the kill that yielded 4 billion bounty isn't on eve-kill, or CCP got the date wrong. I don't see any kills on that date that have anywhere near 20 billion in losses, which is what would be required for a bounty that big to pay out.


I derped the date, sorry Oops

edit: it's updated now


Pretty sure it is this kill then: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15546874

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Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#45 - 2013-01-23 16:06:45 UTC
To stay consistent, could you please use ISO8601 dates and times on the graphs? It's also a worldwide standard...

And I understand your obsession with pinkish colours, tho having a wider scale of colours on the graphs would make them more readable :)

Otherwise nice stuff :)
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#46 - 2013-01-23 16:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Jagerblitzen
As Vice Secretary of the Cheerleading Sycophant Minions, I just had to stop by and say CONGRATULATIONS to all of Team Superfriends on the new Bounty System, and thanks a million for sharing the happy news with the rest of your adoring fans*. now your CSM Stakeholders will be spared much ridicule and scorn!! Twisted

*Yes, even you over there in the corner with the "<3 Punkturis" sign.

I also wanted to share with you my favorite bounty hunters of all time. Cool Go watch this stuff. It's grand.

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-01-23 16:16:16 UTC
So, in a nutshell, another failed mechanic? I mean, based on the steady decline of bounty placements week after week, if the trend continues it'll hit a near-zero point soon. So much for bounty hunting as a profession and all that. And how many of those bounties being claimed have been absolutely coincidental? As in, killing a war target in FW that you'd be killing anyway? Bounty wasn't an incentive, in fact I'd say it's not even a factor in a situation like that.

Or am I just being a Negative Nancy? Just hard to put a positive spin on this, feels like wasted time and effort for little payoff.
Rhapsody d'Elysium
Circle of Friends
#48 - 2013-01-23 16:25:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhapsody d'Elysium
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Panhead4411 wrote:
Now that you've run the numbers, how many ppl have the token 100k-300k bounties from when they answered questions in the Help Channel?


We don't know the reason people placed bounties on them

Although my 100k bounty also came from the Help channel, let's ignore that for a moment and just ask how many players have a bounty of less than 1 million.

Or better yet, a graph to see the ISK values of bounties placed versus the number of bounties placed. Just doing some quick calculations of my own, the average bounty is about 9.7million. How many bounties were actually below that number?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#49 - 2013-01-23 16:25:29 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:

Or am I just being a Negative Nancy? Just hard to put a positive spin on this, feels like wasted time and effort for little payoff.


No, you're just bad at interpreting graphs.

The decline isn't linear.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#50 - 2013-01-23 16:32:33 UTC
Question: When you blow someone up the payout is based on the "Pend insurance value". Is there any way to find this value for an item other than blowing it up?

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#51 - 2013-01-23 16:34:25 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Question: When you blow someone up the payout is based on the "Pend insurance value". Is there any way to find this value for an item other than blowing it up?


nope, it's a Super Friends secret Pirate

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#52 - 2013-01-23 16:37:36 UTC
Congrats,

bounty system seems to be working!

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#53 - 2013-01-23 16:49:59 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
First, I told you so. Smile

Second, we would love to see the metrics on kill rights (sold, deaths resulting, highest price sold for, where, etc.).



what's the "I told you so" for?

That part was directed at all the people reading this thread that predicted either bounty placement of biblical proportions (IE everybody has a bounty) or complete non-interest.

I'd say things are working out nicely.

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DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
#54 - 2013-01-23 16:52:40 UTC
PINK BLOG .... BEST BLOG <3 Punkturis

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-01-23 17:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
Why did you use three shades of pink for the pie chart?

And why did no one at CCP say not to use three shades of pink for the pie chart before you published it?

Three shades of yellow would have been just as much fun to decipher.

Why not 3 different colors?
Obviously someone likes pink.


I suppose that whatever the 81.076 could be argued as being a purple.


I can't seperate the little boxes of color to the right to figure out what is what, with the exception of WH space.
They're to similliar in shade for me to correlate to.


In all seriousness, could you please not do that anymore.


PS: thought that the 81 was actually null sec. Or low.
I have a new found sympathy for the color blind.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#56 - 2013-01-23 17:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: seth Hendar
Two step wrote:
Either the kill that yielded 4 billion bounty isn't on eve-kill, or CCP got the date wrong. I don't see any kills on that date that have anywhere near 20 billion in losses, which is what would be required for a bounty that big to pay out.

check for the titan Broken toys lost in derelik, gettin rid of their 6+B bounty in one single fight ^^

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15546874

"vensentar, cyno up 200K from the pos, you are clear to jump" is the last thing he heard

well, maybe he missed the 200km part Smile

well, at least they kept it 26 days, and since we speak numbers, maybe this is a new record about the titan that lasted the least?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#57 - 2013-01-23 17:21:55 UTC
Numbers, pink pie chart and bar graphs and a Punkturis blog. Today is a good day.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#58 - 2013-01-23 17:28:24 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Obviously someone likes pink.


Natsett, meet CCP Punkturis. Punkturis, Natsett.

A very interesting dev blog. Looks like the feature is settling in nicely.

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Ila Gant
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2013-01-23 18:01:52 UTC
The multiple shades of "fabulous" aren't the issue, the issue is that the area of the legend boxes is too small to provide the eye with a good color sample to distinguish. Unless you're reading on a touch screen and can just pinch-and-zoom.

Congrats to Boom Boom Big Bounty for the biggest monocle. Cool
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
#60 - 2013-01-23 18:05:23 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Nopol10 wrote:
Nice!

But the pie chart isn't easy on the eye for colour blind or tired people :S


daaawwww - sorry! we just thought it looked so pretty!

If you ever write a book about the art of creating pie charts it has to be called 'Shades of Pink'.