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Finding backdoor to 0.0

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Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#1 - 2013-01-23 11:09:07 UTC
Hi guys,
I'm looking for the most effective method of finding a WH to nullsec.

After 9hrs of sightseeing w-space and scanning every signature in every system and three days of reading WH atrticles I'm getting a little bit frustrated.

If I understand correctly the information on EVElopedia, the best chance of finding nullsec WH would be in C3 space, because almost 20% of static WHs should be K346. So every fifth C3 system should have connection to nullsec - right?
I've also read, but haven't tried yet, that I could drop one deep space probe and eliminate some signatures basing on the signal strenght.

Do you have any other advice or should I really only scan, scan, scan waiting for better luck?
Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-01-23 11:15:21 UTC
scan scan scan scan....or just pay someone to find it for you :) since we are never looking for c3 stat 0sec we tend to find them 90% of the time :D
Vanishing Shadow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-01-23 11:41:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanishing Shadow
You are on the right track with the deep space probes. This works: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/wormhole.html?str=8&f=5&sec=3

Null holes from C3 are small sigs from memory, about as hard to resolve as mag and radars. Check the site.
Glasgow Dunlop
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-23 11:56:10 UTC
just depends on your luck :) you could scan for 10 days then find a few on the 11th day. All about the randomness :)

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chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#5 - 2013-01-23 11:58:47 UTC
You will have better luck getting into c5 static c5 space and scanning out a nice long chain from there. More time than not you will wind up with several 0.0 exits along the way.
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-01-23 12:15:23 UTC
Confirming what chris said. It's not unusual for us to find 2-3 null sec wandering holes in our travels exploring.

Good Luck!

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#7 - 2013-01-23 12:34:10 UTC
Vanishing Shadow wrote:
You are on the right track with the deep space probes. This works: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/wormhole.html?str=8&f=5&sec=3

That page contains a lot of faulty data.

If you want regular access to nullsec and don't care about the quality of sleeper sites in your home system, a C1 with static null is best. Almost no one wants to live there so most of them are empty.

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Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#8 - 2013-01-23 15:05:12 UTC
Thanks for all your tips!
Some more questions:

Terrorfrodo wrote:

That page contains a lot of faulty data.

... in your home system...


1. Do you know any more reliable source? Static WHs leading to 0.0 have Signal Strenght of 2,5% according to this site and EVElopedia.
2. Actually I don't have a home system - I want to travel from hi-sec to null and back. So it's not about finding appropriate system

once, it's about finding a method to do it fast multiple times.

chris elliot wrote:
You will have better luck getting into c5 static c5 space and scanning out a nice long chain from there. More time than not you will wind up with several 0.0 exits along the way.


3. I'm afraid I don't understand you What? (sry english is not my native language )... Are you saying I should go to C5 and look for wandering WH to null there or that I should go to C5 and then try to get out other way?
Bloemkoolsaus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-23 15:35:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloemkoolsaus
Three Xi wrote:
3. I'm afraid I don't understand you What? (sry english is not my native language )... Are you saying I should go to C5 and look for wandering WH to null there or that I should go to C5 and then try to get out other way?


What he means is that there are more wormholes leading to 0.0 in C5 systems. This is because a lot of wormholes that spawn in 0.0 space connect to c5 systems.
So, if you roam around in c5 systems with a static c5, you have a higher chance of finding a 0.0 exit.
Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#10 - 2013-01-23 15:41:34 UTC
Bloemkoolsaus wrote:

What he means is that there are more wormholes leading to 0.0 in C5 systems. This is because a lot of wormholes that spawn in 0.0 space connect to c5 systems.
So, if you roam around in c5 systems with a static c5, you have a higher chance of finding a 0.0 exit.


Ahh, ok - thanks for explanation. Will try that.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-23 15:50:57 UTC
You could also use a site like www.wormnav.com to check a system when you enter to see if it isa C3 with a nullsec static before you waste your time scanning.
Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#12 - 2013-01-23 16:02:33 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
You could also use a site like www.wormnav.com to check a system when you enter to see if it isa C3 with a nullsec static before you waste your time scanning.


Yeah I do that , but it's hard to tell if it saves time. Usually I have to scan anyway just to find a way to move on.
DisBeyotch
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-01-23 16:11:41 UTC
Three Xi wrote:

2. Actually I don't have a home system - I want to travel from hi-sec to null and back. So it's not about finding appropriate system

once, it's about finding a method to do it fast multiple times.



So...correct me if I have misinterpreted your intentions. You are trying to perfect a method that allows you to travel from HS to Null Sec repeatedly?

You may luck out from time to time and find a HS > C1-3 > Null chain that you could use but if you wanted to perfect a system you would still have to scan all the time.

Cross reference you locus ID of the WH that you jump into with one of the 2 or 3 sites already linked in the thread to see what it's static is. If it's static is not a null, don't waste your time, just move onto the next HS system and look for more WH's.

That volatile nature of WH's is going to make this a tiring task and you're results will vary, but eventually you should find a WH in HS with a static exit to Null, it's only a matter of time.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#14 - 2013-01-23 17:38:48 UTC
Direct WHs from hisec to null exist but are very rare. In fact I have seen only a single one myself (admittedly I don't scan a lot in hisec, mostly only from inside w-space). Always starting in hisec to get into null will inevitably require a lot of scanning every time. From hisec you mostly find C1 und C2 which rarely connect to null, and C3s which only connect to null with a 20% chance.

In short, I don't think it's a feasible plan...

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Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#15 - 2013-01-23 19:31:11 UTC
DisBeyotch wrote:

So...correct me if I have misinterpreted your intentions. You are trying to perfect a method that allows you to travel from HS to Null Sec repeatedly?


Yes - that's the plan: go to null for a few days, admire it's culture, taste some exotic food, meet friendly natives Blink then come back then repeat somewhere else.

So of course I don't expect I will repeatedly find WH to nullsec in every HS or every W-space, I am prepared for some effort and that's why I ask after three days of trying.

I want to check if it's as easy and profitable as one guy wrote in other thread. For now it's difficult but I have to be sure I do everything good before I give up. Still a lot to learn Smile
Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#16 - 2013-01-24 22:30:49 UTC
I just come back to say I finally made it :)

Pure luck: hi-sec -> M555 -> C5 -> K162 -> 0.0
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#17 - 2013-01-25 05:23:24 UTC
Three Xi wrote:
I just come back to say I finally made it :)

Pure luck: hi-sec -> M555 -> C5 -> K162 -> 0.0


It make it sound like its hard to get into nullsec?

I regularly dance through the front door of nullsec entry points in kspace.
Three Xi
Phoenix Reincarnation
#18 - 2013-01-28 10:41:25 UTC
It's random I think.

For the first time it took me three days and for the second time only 1-2 hrs. The nice part is that both times I ended in 0.0 backyard without any gatecamps, warp-bubbles and such.

You might want to check this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=194555

Dr No Game
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#19 - 2013-02-06 20:29:50 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
Three Xi wrote:
I just come back to say I finally made it :)

Pure luck: hi-sec -> M555 -> C5 -> K162 -> 0.0


It make it sound like its hard to get into nullsec?

I regularly dance through the front door of nullsec entry points in kspace.

Man, I can't wait until I get out to WH space. Living in Null makes you feel kinda untouchable sometimes; "no one can muster a large fleet this deep in null, with the safety net of my alliance for 20 jumps in any direction surrounding me."

Suddenly, wormholers! Must be fun to come and go as you please like that :D
joebro1060
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-02-06 22:21:55 UTC
mmm I love "backdoor" :)
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