Jita Park Speakers Corner

I first started thinking about this while thinking of ways to tax miners. Obviously, we can't have the ore automatically deposited in the corp hanger; I'd just set a wallet division and set the ore tax to 100%. \o/ no more hauling!!! I know, I know, just use the refine tax in the station. Most alliances are pretty stingy on who can own a refinery outpost, the executor always wants it for himself.

Can an item's initial creation, when the 1st owner receives it, be shown in the API the same way bounties and mission rewards show? Examples:

-ore mined showing up in the miners hold
-salvage showing in the players hold
-loot from an NPC wreck
-mission rewards from an agent
-items from an LP store
-ships and items built

I'm sure there are other situations that I'm not thinking of during my insomnia. These are items that did not exist in any player's inventory before.

I am not saying that all items a player receives should be listed. Most will agree that corp theft is a good thing in EVE, most of us do not want to make it more difficult, or easier to get caught after. The mystery of "who dun it" is good for the game. Examples of items that should not be listed:

-items transferred or traded between players or corps, in space or in stations
-loot from a player's wreck
-items purchased from contracts or the market im a market idiot, this is good for the API and eve players

I'm simply looking for a way to allow a corp to see what it's players have pulled in, so they can tax it if they so chose. Or at least let a curious CEO see what his members are up to.

Even if this tax were somehow done in game and mandatory, I imagine most high sec corps would have to keep mineral taxes very low, or even at zero. This is more aimed at null corps and alliances, where new income sources are needed before moon goo can be changed. Also, taxing miners would encourage supporting those miners, at least a little.

Could not disagree more here. You want items purchased from the market not to show up in the api? Either you are incredibly ignorant to what many people use the API for, or you are trolling hard.

The mystery of whodunnit is good for the game? What? No, eve is all about figuring out every little detail, from seeing every point of damage someone did, to knowing the exact values of every mineral lost to refines, to knowing all the alts of someone trying to join your corp.

There is so much about this post that screams "I want mission runners and miners to have everything they do be full disclosure, but I dont want my market trading and wreck theft to be tracked."

Grow a pair.

Profit drives the market

If your taxing 100% of miners profits then there is no incentive to mine

Which means you'll still get squat

I understand what your saying . Simple put "Give me all your ore or all profits" is a bad idea

I'm still trying to figure out what, other than...



...is the point of this thread

I understand the topic.

Just not your reason for dancing around the subject

Care to answer directly?

So we spin back to the tax story rather than a curious CEO wanting to check up on employees?

Sorry bro, but at the time of writing this I had just returned from the local bar and am slightly inebriated

Sure your smart, but unless your proposal to add loot (particularly mined ore to the API) reaches out to the public on their level, your not going to find much support on a public forum. Good luck though

Now that, I understand and will support.

See how easy that was...