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Fighting a losing battle? feel not alone
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vice vortex
Autopsy
#1 - 2013-01-22 13:24:07 UTC
So Ive been playing the game some months now, had this cool plan to build a amarr pilot fit for missioning and a minmatar pilot for pvp but my dreams were shattered by the last update.
I joined a corp based in amarr space and being loyal lil old me I wish to stay here, the only problem is, my toons have been rendered useless
My PVE toon can't PVE because of this over powered uncounterable ewar
and my PVP toon cant get off the dock cos he aint being funded!
after countless petition, bug reporting, forum posting its come to my attention that CCP just do not seem to care,
with minimal forum feedback that appears to be just a few words to keep customers on their seats.
responses from petitions and bug reporting seems almost robitic,
u know like them call centres who read from a script blah dee blah blah
Sure I can train my PVE toon to fire missles but i simply do not want to. and being a sandbox mmo I believe I should be able to fly pve the same as any other race can without this unfair advantage
Tengus got a slight debuff but there still roaming around like nothing happened
but us turret pilots who want to kill sansha are doomed.
weres the love ccp
focus on current issue. :(
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-22 13:28:34 UTC
You're in CVA so you got everything bass-ackwards anyway. You should be pvpin' with your Amarr character and make your Minnie character work his a$$ off. You know, like any good slave should.
vice vortex
Autopsy
#3 - 2013-01-22 13:38:17 UTC
well even if i wasn't in CVA but still shooting sansha, id still have a problem , its not right
Claire Raynor
NovaGear
#4 - 2013-01-22 14:25:41 UTC
Hi Vice Vortex

It's a bit tough at the moment - but the Devs are working on the missioning thing. We will see more with the Battleship and other ship balancing - they'll probably revist the mission balance then too. There are lots of Dev posts on threads about PvE at the moment. You are not alone and you are not being ignored!

OK - that's my fan-boi over. To support your PvP toon - might I suggest some - Lo-Sec Planetary Interaction. It is cheap - realativly lo risk - and will give you an incoming heading towards 66Mil a week once you have developed a plan. If both of your characters do this you will have plenty of funds to do at least Frigate PvP for "Free".

I hope this suggestion opens up an avenue for you to explore. I now make more from PI than I do from Missions. Untill Missions get some TLC.

Take care,
vice vortex
Autopsy
#5 - 2013-01-22 14:31:17 UTC
Claire Raynor wrote:
Hi Vice Vortex

It's a bit tough at the moment - but the Devs are working on the missioning thing. We will see more with the Battleship and other ship balancing - they'll probably revist the mission balance then too. There are lots of Dev posts on threads about PvE at the moment. You are not alone and you are not being ignored!

OK - that's my fan-boi over. To support your PvP toon - might I suggest some - Lo-Sec Planetary Interaction. It is cheap - realativly lo risk - and will give you an incoming heading towards 66Mil a week once you have developed a plan. If both of your characters do this you will have plenty of funds to do at least Frigate PvP for "Free".

I hope this suggestion opens up an avenue for you to explore. I now make more from PI than I do from Missions. Untill Missions get some TLC.

Take care,


hi Claire , thanks for the input, I guess there is some light at the end of this tunnel, I guess im just really miffed about getting robotic responses from dev teams :L
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-22 15:30:09 UTC
Pve balancing? There's nothing to balance about pve. They don't need to "balance" you against the rats, they need to rollback what they broke. Rolling back td to its former state involves changing a single numeric value, don't "balance" it, do it.Roll
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#7 - 2013-01-22 17:02:30 UTC
since you're in CVA, why don't you do your PVE in nullsec? I doubt you'll have much trouble with tracking disruptors in asteroid belts.

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vice vortex
Autopsy
#8 - 2013-01-22 17:51:44 UTC
actually i have been doing pve in null sec and have problems both in belts and anoms..
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#9 - 2013-01-22 18:55:54 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
You're in CVA so you got everything bass-ackwards anyway. You should be pvpin' with your Amarr character and make your Minnie character work his a$$ off. You know, like any good slave should.


Amen
Flakey Foont
#10 - 2013-01-22 22:37:29 UTC
Lets balance PVE by making the computer run NPCs dumb enough to defeat....


Whoo boy...
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-01-22 22:49:13 UTC
if drone space is shit, avoid drone space.
if sansha space is shit, ___________________

fill in the blanks.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-01-23 00:02:22 UTC
Are both toons on one account? Dual boxing helps. Otherwise get some buddies to mission with.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-23 01:00:25 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Are both toons on one account? Dual boxing helps. Otherwise get some buddies to mission with.


Behold, dual boxing now a requirement or Amar pve.Big smile
Biotica Moonwalker
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-01-23 11:35:23 UTC
I give you a better advice, no dual boxing, no skill plan changing, it's called: Apocalypse navy issue (even the normal one works but has lower dps)

This ship is cap stable with 20.6 km optimal range +10 falloff with conflagration and multifreq,61.9+10 with scorch, 348m/s
You can also do 7/10 ded space complex with it without any problem untill last room where you will probably have to warp off once.

With conflagration crystals has 865 dps and 618 with scorch. Not as good as other ships but it runs anomalies with no problem.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, 0.0 Anomaly runner]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
Centus B-Type Large Armor Repairer <--- You don't really need this if you are doing only anomalies, a cheaper one is good
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Reactive Armor Hardener <---- if you use dead space repper, consider switching this to a tracking enhancer for anomalies, you will still need it for 7/10 complexes though

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
vice vortex
Autopsy
#15 - 2013-01-23 12:43:25 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Are both toons on one account? Dual boxing helps. Otherwise get some buddies to mission with.

I do and had it it mind, when i made her I set her to focus on a serious plan which she's almost done with now :)

Biotica Moonwalker
im using a navy apoc and training t2 pulse at the min for it, how much does that ab change things? any info be nice :)
Biotica Moonwalker
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-01-23 12:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Biotica Moonwalker
vice vortex wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
Are both toons on one account? Dual boxing helps. Otherwise get some buddies to mission with.

I do and had it it mind, when i made her I set her to focus on a serious plan which she's almost done with now :)

Biotica Moonwalker
im using a navy apoc and training t2 pulse at the min for it, how much does that ab change things? any info be nice :)


changes a lot because when any ship is tracking disrupting you, just keep them at 5000m range and shoot with ultraviolet or scorch (i use ultraviolet because scorch have tracking penalties ) and since you are 3 times faster than a sansha TD battleship you just **** them. You just need that AB only for the tracking disruption wave in forsaken hubs, in any other wave you can just stay in the middle of the anomalies shooting stuff with conflagration up to 28km :D

I use that ship every day in CVA space and i really have no problem with it.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#17 - 2013-01-23 14:37:35 UTC
vice vortex wrote:
well even if i wasn't in CVA but still shooting sansha, id still have a problem , its not right

i shoot sanshas since many monthes (years?) and did not noticed a change regarding TD strenght.

aggro change, yes, drones boats being more painfull to use, yes, guristas EWAR still OP, yes, but TD is not an issue.

i do fly matar( loki / pest / macha / cane) / gallente (both drone and blaster) and TD is no problem at all
Kacer Xenro
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-01-23 15:05:27 UTC
Sounds like you should join a farming corp in w-space to make your isk, more isk, less risk, simpler combat.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-23 15:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
vice vortex wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
Are both toons on one account? Dual boxing helps. Otherwise get some buddies to mission with.

I do and had it it mind, when i made her I set her to focus on a serious plan which she's almost done with now :)

Biotica Moonwalker
im using a navy apoc and training t2 pulse at the min for it, how much does that ab change things? any info be nice :)


It changes nothing. The whole issue is that your tracking is in the gutter along with range, so that once you close to 5km, you can't hit. If td had the same counter as dampening, there would've been no issue. There no "counter" other than dual boxing, period. Stop wasting your time with these EFT warriors who never undock and have no idea what they're talking about.

Go ahead and try that pulse n.apoc in Sansha blockade, but be ready to lose said n.apoc.P
CausticS0da
Shrubbery Acquisitions
Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance
#20 - 2013-01-23 15:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CausticS0da
Biotica Moonwalker wrote:
I give you a better advice, no dual boxing, no skill plan changing, it's called: Apocalypse navy issue (even the normal one works but has lower dps)

This ship is cap stable with 20.6 km optimal range +10 falloff with conflagration and multifreq,61.9+10 with scorch, 348m/s
You can also do 7/10 ded space complex with it without any problem untill last room where you will probably have to warp off once.

With conflagration crystals has 865 dps and 618 with scorch. Not as good as other ships but it runs anomalies with no problem.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, 0.0 Anomaly runner]

Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
Centus B-Type Large Armor Repairer <--- You don't really need this if you are doing only anomalies, a cheaper one is good
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Reactive Armor Hardener <---- if you use dead space repper, consider switching this to a tracking enhancer for anomalies, you will still need it for 7/10 complexes though

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5







This ship actually has a 6 cm optimal with 2 cm falloff against Sansha. This equates to approximately 0 turret dps.
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