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Why I quit eve after 5 long years of game play.

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Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-01-22 21:46:25 UTC
Can I have your stuff?

Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave

Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#42 - 2013-01-22 21:46:43 UTC
Something makes no sense here, well, besides the everything else that makes no sense. The Battleclinic killboard shows this fellow has a 35-23 lifetime record. Now, he hasn't done any pvp in about a year but he was violencing people's ships before, even podded a few.

And he's part of a corporation that is known for gank attacks on New Order Agents. I myself was on the receiving end of one. (Don't worry, I survived and got a delicious kill right, now exercised)

I have to believe its the size of the loss that set him off. He was had by skillful social engineers and he mad.

THIS is why we need to kill the noobs early and often. So they don't grow up to be five year vets who are still asking, "Wha' happened?

BBB

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#43 - 2013-01-22 21:48:27 UTC
Remembering that EVE is primarily a PvP game, and that all PvE takes place in that context, my suggestion to you is that you get right back into whatever it was you were doing: start with a smaller ship, build up your income stream again. Read the Making ISK guide so you don't end up with only 1B ISK of assets after 5 years of playing.

What happened to you is a classic trap for new players: ninja looters will head into your mission, steal your loot, go blinky to you, wait for you to shoot them (which gives them permission to shoot back) then reship into a combat vessel and blow you up. This scenario is almost as old as EVE itself. So now you know about it, you have the information you need to not be caught by this trap again. Remember that next time someone goes blinky to you in a mission space, the right thing to do is dock up and log out.

Losing your favourite mission-running ship can be a huge emotional blow. You really need to get back on that horse and keep riding. Don't let the loss get you down: learn from this experience and move on. If you have a fleet of friends running missions with you, you'll find it's easy to get back into the rhythm.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#44 - 2013-01-22 21:52:57 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Remembering that EVE is primarily a PvP game, and that all PvE takes place in that context, my suggestion to you is that you get right back into whatever it was you were doing: start with a smaller ship, build up your income stream again. Read the Making ISK guide so you don't end up with only 1B ISK of assets after 5 years of playing.

What happened to you is a classic trap for new players: ninja looters will head into your mission, steal your loot, go blinky to you, wait for you to shoot them (which gives them permission to shoot back) then reship into a combat vessel and blow you up. This scenario is almost as old as EVE itself. So now you know about it, you have the information you need to not be caught by this trap again. Remember that next time someone goes blinky to you in a mission space, the right thing to do is dock up and log out.

Losing your favourite mission-running ship can be a huge emotional blow. You really need to get back on that horse and keep riding. Don't let the loss get you down: learn from this experience and move on. If you have a fleet of friends running missions with you, you'll find it's easy to get back into the rhythm.


This is the best advice.
Mister S Burke
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-01-22 21:56:04 UTC
This is a good thing, I mean it. You are free. 5 years is too long to date a supermodel let alone play the SAME game. He did you a favor, I mean that.
Flakey Foont
#46 - 2013-01-22 21:59:01 UTC
It would appear you have drawn your own conclusions about what the game was and what it is now. High-sec was never meant to be Trammel. Your having played 5 years is suspect.

I have a question as well. Why do folks who quit want to tell everyone? Tell CCP. I don't lose a dime or any sleep for that matter.

I have never thought of the game as PVE or PVP. It is EVE. Not everything has to be divided into two parcels.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#47 - 2013-01-22 22:05:24 UTC
Doesn't matter if your right or wrong. This will be locked and you'll be banned. Join me for a game of GT 5?

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

John Caligan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-22 22:10:16 UTC
I barely play at all. But ya know what? There's an important thing to remember about EVE: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS ASSUME EVERYONE IN-SYSTEM IS OUT FOR YOUR HEAD ON THEIR MANTLEPIECE. Even hisec isn't safe these days. The only way to be safe is to always be aligned to a station if you're flying something larger than a Destroyer. If your mission-running and someone else warps in, they're probably a ganker. If you're mining and someone warps in with anything other than a mining ship, get outta dodge, and if they ARE in a mining ship, be wary, it could mean smartbombs.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#49 - 2013-01-22 22:12:42 UTC
FWIW, I once lost a CNR (back when they were CNRs, not RNIs) and went through all of this myself. I lost the ship to a crash-to-desktop after having gained full room aggro. If i hadn't crashed, I'd probably have kept the ship.

I experienced the classic five stages of grieving: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. I logged out and back in a few times, just in case there was something wrong with the game. I fumed and steamed for a while, blaming my computer, CCP, anything and everything else except myself (even expressing my anger to the point of banging my pots and pans around as I unpacked the dishwasher, a classic temper tantrum). I begged the GMs to reimburse my ship. I went into a black funk for a week, almost in tears when I wanted to log into EVE each night (yes really).

Then I reminded myself that it's just a game, and the game is based on blowing stuff up. My stuff got blown up (and I was sad that it wasn't blown up by a player, 'cos then at least I'd be able to claim PvP experience), and now I had the opportunity to get more stuff: I was in an advantageous position since I had standings with agents, I had good ship piloting skills, and I knew how most of the missions worked. So I bought a Caracal, ran some L3 missions, upgraded to a Drake, got back into L4 missions, and now my missioning fleet consists of Rattlesnake, Dominix, Tengu, Oracle, etc. I have plenty of options and a decent ISK flow because I didn't let the loss of my favourite ship keep me down.

Might I suggest that you start a PvP alt and get into Faction Warfare? The best way to get over the emotional shock of losing ships is (oddly enough) to lose more ships. You'll get to realise that losing ships is part of life. It still stings when it happens, but you know that it happens, you are prepared that it will happen to you, and you enjoy the time that it's not happening to you so much more Lol

Your first ship loss is the hardest to cope with. That it took you 5 years to get to this point just makes this first loss that much more painful, because you've fallen into thinking that you're "safe" when running missions in hisec. You'll get over it, and you'll enjoy the game more for having experienced this. You'll be aware that you're not "safe" in hisec so much as "not being shot at right now" Lol.

Anyhow, that's enough of my babbling for one thread.
Prince Mammon
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-01-22 22:16:29 UTC
The guy came to the forums to express himself about something that happened to him in-game.

Quick, everyone smack talk him and put him down for casualy playing Eve and not spending all his waking life on it. Roll

To OP: Man Eve is a harsh place. I'm sorry to see someone leave over a loot thieving ganker. As a few of the constructive people have said, take it as a learning expereince. I know it's a pain to start over from scratch, and you feel really disheartened over a loss such as this, but giving up just lets the horrid people in this game feel like they won something.

I wish you the best of luck sir in whatever you do. :)

BTW ISD, 90% of the posts in this thread are nothing but insults and trolls, yet none are removed/warned/banned. That's some fine mod work there.Ugh

CCP Gargant: "total blanket no-tolerance policy was enacted on accusing the ISD of misbehaving" Who else said there people couldn't be accused of misbehaving? Nothing to see here, move along.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#51 - 2013-01-22 22:17:02 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:


I have never thought of the game as PVE or PVP. It is EVE. Not everything has to be divided into two parcels.



EVE would benefit greatly with a lot more of this attitude.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-01-22 22:17:12 UTC
As you would expect. I agree with the OP. The RL 'Smash and Grab' has been around for thousands of years, but why would CCP encourage it in this game?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#53 - 2013-01-22 22:20:16 UTC
Prince Mammon wrote:


BTW ISD, 90% of the posts in this thread are nothing but insults and trolls, yet none are removed/warned/banned. That's some fine mod work there.Ugh



No.

I'm a 'high sec carebear' to a certain degree with 3 years of playing, but this 5 year dude's OP takes the cake, really.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Grenduk
Grey Manufacturing
#54 - 2013-01-22 22:21:23 UTC
I've come to a realization.

If you dont crave pvp and want it all the time, you should quit this game. The game is for pvp, thats it. Anything else exists just to facilitate and service pvp. All mechanics in the game are designed to provide variety to the pvpers.

Mining, industry, and PVE exist only to create an artificial value to pvp loss, thus giving pvp "meaning".

The sooner you accept it, you'll be happier in game and out (even if that means playing another game).
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#55 - 2013-01-22 22:22:15 UTC
Prince Mammon wrote:


Quick, everyone smack talk him and put him down for casualy playing Eve and not spending all his waking life on it. Roll


This is EVE-O GD. You appear to be a bit somewhat unclear on the concept.
Hell, even the OP anticipated a thorough smacking around.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc

Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-01-22 22:23:34 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:


I have a question as well. Why do folks who quit want to tell everyone? Tell CCP. I don't lose a dime or any sleep for that matter.



Unfortunately, some people still believe that the forums are a way to pass messages to CCP. Geez. I don't even remember where that concept came from.
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-01-22 22:25:10 UTC
Grenduk wrote:
I've come to a realization.

If you dont crave pvp and want it all the time, you should quit this game. The game is for pvp, thats it. Anything else exists just to facilitate and service pvp. All mechanics in the game are designed to provide variety to the pvpers.

Mining, industry, and PVE exist only to create an artificial value to pvp loss, thus giving pvp "meaning".

The sooner you accept it, you'll be happier in game and out (even if that means playing another game).


O.o

This is a series of the silliest statements I have ever heard.
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-01-22 22:25:59 UTC
Spawne32 can I have your stuff now that you are quitting? I promise to take the fight to the big bad hardcore players who ruined everyones EVE.
Ione Hunt
Storm Solutions
#59 - 2013-01-22 22:26:27 UTC
So even after 5 years you STILL don't understand that you're NEVER save in Eve, even in high sec...just like in real life. And that's what makes EVE great imo. No cushy "oh I'm dead, I have to wait 20sec to respawn" nonsense. The chance of losing everything is a big draw, something that makes Eve special imo.

PS: Getting ganked in high sec isn't a "loophole"...
Pookie McPook
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
#60 - 2013-01-22 22:30:03 UTC
You'd think after 5 years you'd know that if this left you a little short of ISK then sell a couple of PLEX and bingo you're back in the game a little wiser and hopefully more able to deal with gank tactics.