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Why I quit eve after 5 long years of game play.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-01-22 20:59:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
Whitehound wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Could i get a TLDR; please?

He left.

First he shot a Probe, which was probably in his mission and destroyed it.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15957130

5 minutes later does the Probe pilot show up with a Hurricane and killed his 1b ISK CN Scorpion.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15986030

Seems he got baited, says it was one player with his alt, and lost interest in EVE thereafter.


For some reason I thought it was about losing 100 plexes in a shuttle type of bad...

Question though...

If safety was enabled could he not shoot the probe in the first place?

Secondly, doesn't shooting probes in hi-sec result in concord?

If not, how does the Hurricane get kill rights?

If your safeties were on and you didn't turn it off to shoot the probes, then I would argue you have a pretty good case for petitioning the issue as you should not be able to participate in activities that give you kill rights to others like looting cans.

If you can shoot probes and give kill rights on other then there is something oviously wrong with the saftey feature.

Of coruse if you were flying with safties turned off it was your own damn fault.

[edit]

Oh I see they can flipped you and then you shot at them. Well that obviously bypasses the safeties and has been known to cause ship loss.

Well... Just make sure you fill out the form of why you are quitting EvE to let CCP know why they are losing a subscription.

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Dave Stark
#22 - 2013-01-22 21:00:14 UTC
tl;dr

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#23 - 2013-01-22 21:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Captain Tardbar wrote:

For some reason I thought it was about losing 100 plexes in a shuttle type of bad...

Question though...

If safety was enabled could he not shoot the probe in the first place?

Secondly, doesn't shooting probes in hi-sec result in concord?

If not, how does the Hurricane get kill rights?

If your safeties were on and you didn't turn it off to shoot the probes, then I would argue you have a pretty good case for petitioning the issue as you should not be able to participate in activities that give you kill rights to others like looting cans.

If you can shoot probes and give kill rights on other then there is something oviously wrong with the saftey feature.

Of coruse if you were flying with safties turned off it was your own damn fault.

If the probe (the ship, not scan probe) is stealing his wrecks, he gets to shoot without concodrdokken.
Once he shoots at the Probe, Probe pilot has 15 minutes in which he can freely fire back.

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Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-01-22 21:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rath Kelbore
bah, I wrote out a long, well written reply, and the forums ate it.

I lost ten minutes of work due to forum bug/exploits, I'm quitting EVE as well.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.

Reiisha
#25 - 2013-01-22 21:04:13 UTC
The first rule of EVE:

Don't use what you can't afford to lose.

You have to learn this at some point or another, better late than never. Now that you've learned it, get back out there and act on it :)

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-01-22 21:04:32 UTC
Empire agro mechanics are so sucking fupid i stay way clear of it all

:)

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-01-22 21:04:53 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
If the probe is stealing his loot, he gets to shoot without concodrdokken.
Fixed that for you.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#28 - 2013-01-22 21:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Quiz time!

You say mechanics "keep getting changed to hinder casuals" -- name one.*

You say Eve "keeps losing players" because of this -- can you explain how an increase in subscriptions** comes about from fewer players?

It's these glaring inconsistencies in what you're writing that makes your OP pointless.

* - in the timeframe you give, every mechanics change applicable to high-sec has made being aggressed / losing your ship harder.
** Eve reached it's highest ever subscriber number this month

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#29 - 2013-01-22 21:06:03 UTC
I'm terribly sorry someone lied to you by saying Highsec is "for PVE" and that you have to carebear around for five years before playing EVE Online. They probably also told you that 1.5 bil is a decent life-savings after five years of playing, and that your big expensive battleship costs far too much to be defeated by lowly T1 ships. Those bastards.

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-01-22 21:07:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ana Fox
You loved that ship so much that you didnt even bother to fit it properly .

In 5 years of playing you were baited on most common high sec trick,like all mission runners that never ever invested a minute of their time to visit forum and get at least info how to save their ship.

Also it is hard to believe that player that plays 2-3 hours per day stashed only 1,3 billion.It is hard to believe after 5 years you didnt follow first rule that every rookie knows "dont fly what you cant afford to loose".

So all you have learned so far is that game is broken and that safe heaven is not so safe ,and that in game that is harsh place .

With all respect to you as fellow player in this game,but you were really lucky you didnt loose this ship long time ago.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#31 - 2013-01-22 21:08:06 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
So... Making sure I understand this:

Wreck Ninja swipes stuffs. Ninja gets popped.. Missioneer does not run for safety. Missioneer dies in an expensive fire. Missioneer whinges in GD, gets trolled.

Right. Nothing to see here... It's all been done before. Move along.




Edit:
Solstice Project wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
If the probe is stealing his loot, he gets to shoot without concodrdokken.
Fixed that for you.

Right. Thank you.
Oops

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#32 - 2013-01-22 21:09:22 UTC
Spawne32 wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
I would gather that he is mad because of this.

I would guess that he shot a suspect, possibly in a mission, and then got destroyed. It looks like he just wanted some kind of special treatment because he's be carebearing in his little bubble a long time and how dare someone come interfere with his gameplay. Someone with less time in game than him, no less!


Actually, i got a BM put on me after i got webbed and they warped in a small group of people who gained kill rights after warping in on my ship and knocking me back 50km. Then i was tackled, vamped, and destroyed. While my fleet watched.


Also, as you described, this is an impossible scenario. You derped.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Tactical Division
#33 - 2013-01-22 21:09:32 UTC
I stopped reading at :

Quote:
There was always a clear progression of when you would move from PVE game mechanics and become skilled enough to enter into PVP mechanics.


A 2 week old noob that gets into PVP on day one will know more about how it works than someone that has played the game 5 years and has somehow managed to avoid all contact with PVP. Sure, the noob's ships will be cheap and poorly fit (the fittings do require some level of skill training to actually work). But nothing replaces experience. Heck, the aggression rules are so much easier now to understand with the visual timers and indications.

If you must shoot the thief, swap ships to something properly fit for PVP or at the very least cheap enough that you can afford to lose.

There is just no reason to get baited like this once you have been playing the game a while.

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-01-22 21:09:35 UTC
how come after 5 years you couldn't fit t2 cruise missles at least?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#35 - 2013-01-22 21:18:12 UTC
link killmail please

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-01-22 21:25:02 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
bah, I wrote out a long, well written reply, and the forums ate it.

I lost ten minutes of work due to forum bug/exploits, I'm quitting EVE as well.



Sounds like you haven't learned one of the main Eve Online unofficial forum rules,.... P

...Don't spend any more time typing than you can afford to lose.
And, Ctrl+c is your very bestest friend. Lol

Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-01-22 21:26:29 UTC
EVE, such a harsh mistress.

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#38 - 2013-01-22 21:34:23 UTC
Obviously you made a series of easily avoidable mistakes.


You forgot that BS sized weapons often are fairly ineffective against frigate sized targets if the frigate is well flown and equipped.
You forgot that the Probe pilot could reship and come back after you initiated hostilites.
You forgot his friends could remote repair him (which did make them viable targets for you).
You forgot that the Yellow box only means they are targeting you, which confused you.
You kept going back, and did not switch to a PVP ship if you did insist on prolonging the encounter.
And the oldest chestnut (obviously) you flew what you could not afford to lose, and put it at risk.

Any of these issues are easily correctable, and frankly to blame your quitting the game on this situation is more than a bit silly. If you've become burned out that is totally understandable, but to squeak because of well known game mechanics that are actually SIMPLER to understand than they were in 2008 is more than a little hypocritical.

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Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
#39 - 2013-01-22 21:36:31 UTC
How can you have played Eve for 5 years, and your whole game is ruined by one ship loss? How can anyone play this game for 5 years not be able to afford a scorp. (I didn't even know people few scorps any more).

This is what is so wrong with carebears in this game. First off, they are terrible at Eve, even the part they focus in (carebearing). If you can only come with a a bil or 2 after 5 years of carebearing you are really doing something wrong.

Secondly, if carebears got over their hoarder syndrome that makes them intolerant of any loss I think they'd be a lot happier.

Makes me wonder if carebears cry when they shoot ammo.




This thread has to be a troll, it can't be real.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#40 - 2013-01-22 21:46:07 UTC
So was killing the bait probe worth the loss of a Navy Scorp?

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