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CEO's Corp Dropping to Avoid War Decs

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#81 - 2013-01-04 07:53:34 UTC
Thomas Gore wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Being a CEO of a small corporation does not make them "helpless highsec noobs." Sometimes these are alt corps for someone we might be warring. And then sometimes these are 4 year old characters who just want to "mission and mine in peace" but apparently we're not allowed to go after them because they don't want it.


How are you not allowed? Who's stopping you?

You're using one game mechanic to try to force them to fight you. They are using another game mechanic to avoid fighting you.

So the cost of being a **** is higher than trying not to be a ****? Welcome to a civilized world :)




You misinterpreted me, and that's probably because I'm still posting in this thread.

That paragraph of text was more targeted to the people who keep crying "leave those industrialist/missioners/miners alone!" I actually don't give a crap about the people who close and reform their corp. If it's a contract, we just redeck them anyway and ruin their corp history. If it's not a contract, we redeck them if we care.

I play EVE. I don't play "get all pissed off because I don't understand how to have fun at this game because people do stuff that I don't know how to counter."

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

takedoom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2013-01-05 04:54:13 UTC
Lol high sec troubles.

http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#83 - 2013-01-05 07:38:01 UTC
takedoom wrote:
Lol high sec troubles.


We bow to the wisdom of those who have transcended high sec savagery, to forever dwell in the promised lands.

But seriously, no one cares what area of space you operate in.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#84 - 2013-01-10 20:17:41 UTC
Well Darn, the average of "get it" people fell drastically. Big smile

Simply put, one of my pilots who I took in as a noob grew up and unfortunately has a bigger mouth than balls. (though he denies his balls are pea sized;) he ran his mouth way too much so I war decced his high sec incursion corp. he and his buddy (another of my former noobs who is very decent at pvp now) vowed to come fight, but instead just kept dropping corp and re-forming to evade war decs so they can continue making isk.

I can't attack their high sec isk mill because the war dec system allows them out soon as they destroy their one man corp. And they don't care about employment history, those are their incursion alts.

Creating a corp should be more meaningful and carry greater responsibilties and costs.

If you've never pvp'd please go back to your fuzzy carebear work and don't muck up the thread. And for those who think I'm incapable of getting back at my enemies, you obviously have never held that status Pirate

There - spelled out for the masses. Kudos to the few that have a thourough understanding of Eve.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2013-01-10 20:29:06 UTC
Shrug and move on.

Take it as a win that they had to close. Most people are more mouth anyway and that is all your going to get.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#86 - 2013-01-10 20:36:49 UTC
Simple fix - war decced corps can't be closed, and CEO can't leave a war decced corp. course there is always the alt workaround, however that is time consuming enough that it would make the process irritating to the CEO corp hopper.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2013-01-10 20:41:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Ian Harms wrote:
Simple fix - war decced corps can't be closed, and CEO can't leave a war decced corp. course there is always the alt workaround, however that is time consuming enough that it would make the process irritating to the CEO corp hopper.


As a war deccer that will be unfair to the corp being decced. We are basicly forcing our type of gameplay on a corp. They should have the right and the ability to protect themself or their members. Be it by forming up and protecting themselves, logging off, staying docked, or leaving corp.

Who are we to dictate how a corp should respond to being war decced. Especially if that is not their gameplay.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#88 - 2013-01-10 20:53:28 UTC
Kane

High sec Incursion alts can always dock up,
they only have 1 member per corp so there is NO forming up possible,
And whatever you smoke to believe in "fairness", I'd like to resell it. Big smile
Tigerjade
Troll Legion
#89 - 2013-01-11 04:39:54 UTC
Whether you are industrial or pvp'er none should have immunity from retribution, period.
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#90 - 2013-01-11 12:36:45 UTC
Tigerjade wrote:
Whether you are industrial or pvp'er none should have immunity from retribution, period.


the day there's no way to avoid retribution is the day Eve Online will die.

Kestrix
The Whispering
#91 - 2013-01-11 12:47:38 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
It seems odd to me that a CEO can close his corp and instantly build or join another corp without a timer - you can't drop roles and move, but if you destroy your solo tax haven corp and start another you can dodge war decs.

I sort of think we should have a delay timer so people can't just be building lots of crappy little corps that serve no purpose but give them a tax dodge. They aren't using them to enrich other player's experience, which is the ultimate duty of being a CEO.

Ya know in RL to have a corporation you need a support staff, a board of directors, if we made it necessary for corps in eve to have multiple players to begin a corp (maybe 5 toons with certain skills trained) we'd have less crap corps, and possibly insure more corps succeed as any corp needs multiple leaders to manage it.

Just my 2 cent, everyone else can weigh in.


Adapt or move on.
Dervinus
Sunny Weather Mercenaries
The Initiative.
#92 - 2013-01-11 18:24:35 UTC
posting in a stealth "Nerf James 315" thread

o7 toonies

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#93 - 2013-01-12 03:29:01 UTC
Dervinus wrote:
posting in a stealth "Nerf James 315" thread


I'm lost. Do they close corp to avoid wars? I thought most of them were NPC alts anyway.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#94 - 2013-01-22 17:36:05 UTC
No NPC corps charge a high tax rate. Their incursion alts therefore build their own 1 man corp and they set their own tax rate. If war decced (can't run incursions war decced as logi hate aggression timers) they can instantly disband corp (and thereby droo roles and have a new corp formed in 5 mins flat at the cost of 2 mil isk