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EVE denizens, advise me please

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Lovely Dumplings
My Little Pony Appreciation Corporation
#1 - 2013-01-21 21:26:47 UTC
So I just found out that my grandfather, whom I had a close relationship growing up with, recently died. My parents decided not to tell me because they were afraid I'd bring my Significant Other and "cause conflict" in the family.

Grandpa was a WW2 vet. I was planning on attending his funeral in uniform and assist with the honor detail (I'm a military vet).

So, Eve has been my on again-off again family over the years...what do I do? I've never been this angry in my life.


(Yes, me and my partner are of the same gender. My parents don't accept that. Can we please just leave that here, and not turn things into a homo/hetero fight?)

www.minerbumping.com

Kahu ia Kane'ohe
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-21 21:37:32 UTC
Why were your parents hiding the fact that he recently passed? They should absolutely not hide anything of that nature away from you, NOT even if it might cause conflict, because news like that needs to get to you ASAP, and you have every right to be mad at your parents right now.

-ia Kane'ohe

Guardian of the Land of Kings ~Sriracha Nighthawk's twin

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-21 21:38:05 UTC
Tell your parents, that they did they right thing by intentionally spitting in your face, while disrespecting and alienating your immediate loved ones, so no conflict could possibly be caused by this within the family. Big smile
Lovely Dumplings
My Little Pony Appreciation Corporation
#4 - 2013-01-21 21:40:08 UTC
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:
Why were your parents hiding the fact that he recently passed? They should absolutely not hide anything of that nature away from you, NOT even if it might cause conflict, because news like that needs to get to you ASAP, and you have every right to be mad at your parents right now.

-ia Kane'ohe


The reason i was given was: "Well if we had told you when it happened you would have shown up at the funeral with your partner, and you know how the rest of the family would react to that." They basically waited till after the funeral, to tell me.

www.minerbumping.com

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#5 - 2013-01-21 21:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Lovely Dumplings wrote:
(Yes, me and my partner are of the same gender. My parents don't accept that. Can we please just leave that here, and not turn things into a homo/hetero fight?)


That would make more sense to say AFTER someone makes a big deal about it.

I would have suggested just going alone. Your significant other probably never even met your grandfather anyway. My parents frequently go solo to different funerals, and when my friends and relatives start dying in greater numbers i won't force any partner i have to go to funerals for people they never met.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Kahu ia Kane'ohe
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-21 21:41:54 UTC
Lovely Dumplings wrote:

The reason i was given was: "Well if we had told you when it happened you would have shown up at the funeral with your partner, and you know how the rest of the family would react to that." They basically waited till after the funeral, to tell me.

So you didn't even attend the funeral?

Guardian of the Land of Kings ~Sriracha Nighthawk's twin

Lovely Dumplings
My Little Pony Appreciation Corporation
#7 - 2013-01-21 21:46:08 UTC
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:
Lovely Dumplings wrote:

The reason i was given was: "Well if we had told you when it happened you would have shown up at the funeral with your partner, and you know how the rest of the family would react to that." They basically waited till after the funeral, to tell me.

So you didn't even attend the funeral?



Nope, didn't get to attend. I got told Grandpa died today, the day after they held the funeral.

www.minerbumping.com

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#8 - 2013-01-21 21:48:54 UTC
I'm sorry for your loss. And I'm even more sorry that it caused so much strife.

Someone.

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-01-21 21:49:47 UTC
Lovely Dumplings wrote:
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:
Lovely Dumplings wrote:

The reason i was given was: "Well if we had told you when it happened you would have shown up at the funeral with your partner, and you know how the rest of the family would react to that." They basically waited till after the funeral, to tell me.

So you didn't even attend the funeral?



Nope, didn't get to attend. I got told Grandpa died today, the day after they held the funeral.

That's pretty ******* low. It's not something I'd break a family relationship over, but it's something I'd never forgive either.
Kahu ia Kane'ohe
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-21 21:50:55 UTC
Lovely Dumplings wrote:
Nope, didn't get to attend. I got told Grandpa died today, the day after they held the funeral.

Have you visited his resting place yet?

Guardian of the Land of Kings ~Sriracha Nighthawk's twin

Lovely Dumplings
My Little Pony Appreciation Corporation
#11 - 2013-01-21 22:02:36 UTC
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:
Have you visited his resting place yet?


Not yet. It's a long drive for me, and I'm not in the best condition to drive. Planning on going tomorrow, or the day after.

www.minerbumping.com

Shalia Ripper
#12 - 2013-01-21 22:16:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalia Ripper
Lovely Dumplings wrote:
So I just found out that my grandfather, whom I had a close relationship growing up with, recently died. My parents decided not to tell me because they were afraid I'd bring my Significant Other and "cause conflict" in the family.

Grandpa was a WW2 vet. I was planning on attending his funeral in uniform and assist with the honor detail (I'm a military vet).

So, Eve has been my on again-off again family over the years...what do I do? I've never been this angry in my life.


(Yes, me and my partner are of the same gender. My parents don't accept that. Can we please just leave that here, and not turn things into a homo/hetero fight?)



Go. Wear your uniform. Be polite and respect the memory of your grandfather.

Honor him and in doing so, you will be giving your parents the finger.

And take your SO. They need to learn to cope with YOUR choices as an adult.

I can empathize with you as due to religious differences, my parents did not informing me of the passing of a favorite aunt a couple of years ago. I haven't spoken to my parents in about 4 years. Their choice, not mine.

Edit to add - I didn't read the whole thread before I posted, I am very sorry you didn't get to go to his funeral.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#13 - 2013-01-21 22:20:43 UTC
well, i think you have every right to be furious. while nothing can actually be done about the missing funeral service, you can (and should imo) give the offending party a big piece of your mind. because their behavior is abhorrent and should not be tolerated at all.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-21 22:49:46 UTC
You don't go to his grave for your grandfather..he is dead and so he can't notice it anymore.
You don't do it for your family.. as far as you have told us, they don't have very much contact with you now anyway.
You do it for yourself.
Saying goodbye to a deceased person is a thing that you do for your own sake.
So you shouldn't care about your family, not even your partner.
This is a very intimate moment between you and your dead grandfather and nobody has the right to take it from you.
No need to provoke your family or cause a big drama. Wear the uniform or don't, do whatever makes YOU feel better about the whole situation.
Have my condolence, if this even matters to you.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#15 - 2013-01-21 22:56:58 UTC
We had something kind of similar in my family. Our dad had a stroke in the cortex, which is what tells your heart when to beat and your lungs when to breathe. He was completely gone, no chance of recovery, already gone on to his reward. Machines in the hospital were just mechanically keeping his body going. My mom and the majority of the siblings all agreed to pull the plug. No way our dad, a pragmatic WWII vet, nature conservationist, and church-going Christian, would want his body sitting in a hospital going on like that.

Anyway, after we all left the hospital, one sibling went back and told them to keep the machines going. He wanted to wait until the next day, when his son could get to the hospital. It pissed us all off at the time. We could understand his reasons. But we couldn't understand how, after the family had all pondered and agreed on what would be our dad's wishes, we went back and secretly vetoed us. He made a decision for all of us, against our wishes, in something that involved the passing of a family member.

I think it's kind of similar to your situation in this way: If you don't like it, have the guts to tell me to my face. A family member's death is a pretty important thing, and you don't get to decide about something like that for me.

(But I will say that we eventually all forgave our sibling. And I'm glad we did. We might not respect him as much as before, but we forgave him and we accept him for who he is).
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#16 - 2013-01-21 23:03:58 UTC
I'm sorry you were treated so cruelly.

May I suggest that you hold a small remembrance service locally, inviting friends and loved ones to join with you in honoring your grandfather? It could be either a public ceremony or a small, informal gathering in your own home during which you tell a few stories about what your grandfather meant to you.

Grieving people often behave in strange ways, and often in hurtful and irrational ways. What was done to you was wrong. It is possible that in time your parents will come to realize that, and will offer an apology.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-01-22 00:33:10 UTC
I bat "For the Other Team" as well.

Good Lord, this happens all the time in our community. ALL THE TIME.

It's seriously a sad situation that people cannot be honest about things, especially with the much older generations.

I lucked out in that my father came around eventually, but a lot of us are not so lucky.

And I was in my 20's during the 1980's and let me not tell you stories of what a nightmare that was. When people passed we had to "de-gay" apartments and whatever before the parents arrived. This nonsense went on for years and years.

Honestly, there really is not much you can do. But primarily, do not blame yourself or what you are for this situation.

The onus here is both on those who are 'too embarrassed' to have you at a major funeral, AND who kept the news from you.

The best advice I can give you is to keep your chin up. Go to the grave site at some point and do what you must.

And if your life is in a financial and secure position and all that, I would treat your family in kind and absolutely never, ever speak to any of them ever again. For what they did, no matter what you do, YOU are the better person.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2013-01-22 00:36:50 UTC
I would recommend you let a-holes be a-holes and just drop the whole thing. Why waste energy on it?



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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-01-22 00:55:36 UTC
They need to be punished.... Straight

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Kahu ia Kane'ohe
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-22 01:34:25 UTC
Lovely Dumplings wrote:
Kahu ia Kane'ohe wrote:
Have you visited his resting place yet?


Not yet. It's a long drive for me, and I'm not in the best condition to drive. Planning on going tomorrow, or the day after.

Wear your dress blues when you go. I hope you find closure when you're there.

Guardian of the Land of Kings ~Sriracha Nighthawk's twin

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