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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-01-21 21:57:42 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Its time to nerf NPCs. They have more hitpoints than necessary: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=5&return_to=
The devs should reduce the hit points of NPCs by about 15% After all the NPCs are smarter now.
So why so many hit points?


-OR-
Nerf NPC corps.

NPC corp ~ McDonalds
Player run corp ~ Enron
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2013-01-21 22:00:47 UTC
NPC Abaddons dont have nearly enough EHP.
daveo911
Docked and Loaded
#23 - 2013-01-21 22:03:28 UTC
Your doing it wrong?

I get 30mil a tick, ratting in null and that's not even the best people get. Think I need more isk/tick?
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-01-21 22:05:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
NPC Abaddons dont have nearly enough EHP.

Considering capsuleers skillpoints dont' factor into the ship's abilities, they have way too many EHP. They need to be cut back.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#25 - 2013-01-21 22:14:55 UTC
Lemme guess, you're doing L4s in a cruiser?

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-01-21 22:38:02 UTC
daveo911 wrote:
Your doing it wrong?

I get 30mil a tick, ratting in null and that's not even the best people get. Think I need more isk/tick?


Actually yeah, So you have time to do more constructive things with you time like combat-PVP.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#27 - 2013-01-21 22:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
You are on the wrong forum, this is not world of warcraft.

The Tears Must Flow
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-01-21 22:40:48 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Lemme guess, you're doing L4s in a cruiser?


No. I can't stand missions period because the NPCs have way too many hitpoints.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-01-21 22:42:23 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
II got nothing.

Fixed.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-01-21 23:05:48 UTC
My Vargur says rats need a buff in ehp. Too soft and explody.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-01-21 23:08:20 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
My Vargur says rats need a buff in ehp. Too soft and explody.

Yeah for a Vargur I'm sure the ship is just working as intended, EHP NPC EHP need a nerf.
Neville Smit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-01-21 23:15:05 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Its time to nerf NPCs. They have more hitpoints than necessary.

CCP nerfed NPC hit points a long time ago.

They're called Level 1 and Level 2 missions.

Enjoy.

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Romvex
TURN LEFT
#33 - 2013-01-21 23:44:04 UTC
there is literally no actual reason for a nerf to npc ehp. Please, present some facts to show that it's making the game worse as a whole, not just making you a little butthurt
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-01-21 23:55:45 UTC
Romvex wrote:
there is literally no actual reason for a nerf to npc ehp. Please, present some facts to show that it's making the game worse as a whole, not just making you a little butthurt


Sure there is. And I thought you'd never ask.

Faster PVE = more time to PVP

There is one... now you try? I can think of many more, but you know that those NPCs need a nerf.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-01-21 23:56:41 UTC
Neville Smit wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Its time to nerf NPCs. They have more hitpoints than necessary.

CCP nerfed NPC hit points a long time ago.

They're called Level 1 and Level 2 missions.

Enjoy.



Your post is incomplete. Give us the devblog or it didn't happen.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#36 - 2013-01-22 00:02:28 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
As long as you nerf their bounties accordingly.


And mission payouts to compensate for the increased speed you can complete them.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#37 - 2013-01-22 00:03:52 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Romvex wrote:
there is literally no actual reason for a nerf to npc ehp. Please, present some facts to show that it's making the game worse as a whole, not just making you a little butthurt


Sure there is. And I thought you'd never ask.

Faster PVE = more time to PVP

There is one... now you try? I can think of many more, but you know that those NPCs need a nerf.

ok, so then toons who only mission will blaze through the now ridiculously easy NPCs and become amazingly rich, and you're assuming that all charactars who mission reserve some time to PVP. Now, please tell me the "many more" reasons the NPCs need a nerf
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#38 - 2013-01-22 00:08:21 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Neville Smit wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Its time to nerf NPCs. They have more hitpoints than necessary.

CCP nerfed NPC hit points a long time ago.

They're called Level 1 and Level 2 missions.

Enjoy.



Your post is incomplete. Give us the devblog or it didn't happen.


He was telling you that, if you want NPCs with less EHP, you're free to fly Level 1 and Level 2 missions. You will encounter NPCs with very little EHP.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Katie Frost
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-01-22 00:15:31 UTC
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Its time to nerf NPCs. They have more hitpoints than necessary: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=5&return_to=
The devs should reduce the hit points of NPCs by about 15% After all the NPCs are smarter now.
So why so many hit points?


Yep, let's make the main EvE ISK fountain even more profitable.

Oh, nerf the bounties/payouts accordingly you say...? Why don't you just blitz low level missions or find easy low bounty rats so no complicated and unnecessary adjustments to the game are required.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-01-22 00:22:42 UTC
Romvex wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:
Romvex wrote:
there is literally no actual reason for a nerf to npc ehp. Please, present some facts to show that it's making the game worse as a whole, not just making you a little butthurt


Sure there is. And I thought you'd never ask.

Faster PVE = more time to PVP

There is one... now you try? I can think of many more, but you know that those NPCs need a nerf.

ok, so then toons who only mission will blaze through the now ridiculously easy NPCs and become amazingly rich, and you're assuming that all charactars who mission reserve some time to PVP. Now, please tell me the "many more" reasons the NPCs need a nerf


Well most NPC battles are easy no lie in that, so how would it matter if NPCs had less EHP? Whoa! who said anything about missions or mission runners? I said NPCs as a whole they have way too many EHP.