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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-21 07:50:36 UTC
What is the plural of noctis? Noctises? Noctii?
Diamond Bull
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-01-21 07:52:10 UTC
I have always used Noctis as the plural for Noctis.


Look a Noctis.

Look four Noctis!

Like sheep.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2013-01-21 07:59:06 UTC
Noctium.

Also, rule #1 for odd plurals: if you ever think it's going to end in -ii, it isn't.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2013-01-21 08:09:45 UTC
Nocxium.

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Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#5 - 2013-01-21 08:21:31 UTC
1 noctis
2 noctii
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#6 - 2013-01-21 08:33:22 UTC
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#7 - 2013-01-21 08:34:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Super spikinator
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
What is the plural of noctis? Noctises? Noctii?


Noctibus is correct if you follow latin conventions with the name. I would assume FCs would use Noctis' or Noctis.

Edit: wait, I'm an idiot. Noctis is genitive, it is indeed Noctium.

This will teach me for trying to remember rather than just opening google.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#8 - 2013-01-21 08:37:33 UTC
8 noctis = noctipus
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#9 - 2013-01-21 08:44:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
What is the plural of noctis? Noctises? Noctii?


Noctis could be a completely fictional name, that is made up by a developer who knows nothing about latin, much less about its third declination. In that case a general plural would be "noctises".

If who invented them wanted to use latin as radix, then Noctis is not a noun, it's a genitive of the name "nox" (night) and means "of the night".

A plural of the noun "nox" is "noctes".

I don't agree (yeah a surprise) with Tippia suggesting "noctium" because latins would not just transpose a genitive into its plural, they'd use the proper noun made into plural. If we really want to "force-noun-plural" a genitive then we may as well consider it a developer fantasy made name and call them Noctises.


Edit: that's the problem with Wikipedia and dictionaries, they are tools to be used with background information on the topics they cover yet most just copy and paste.

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#10 - 2013-01-21 08:51:43 UTC
Noctibusii. Next question.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-21 11:28:27 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2013-01-21 12:00:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Confirming "Noctium"

The chart under 'inflection' : http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nox

edit: BUT..........


Since Noctis is the genitive (indicating possession, in this case 'of the night'), and not really a noun, the case for a plural is rather vague and interesting.

CCP Devs decided to make Noctis into a noun because it sounds cool I guess.

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Dave Stark
#13 - 2013-01-21 12:02:47 UTC
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Effect One
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-21 12:05:38 UTC
Nimrod vanHall wrote:
1 noctis
2 noctii


No.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-01-21 12:11:00 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


I don't agree (yeah a surprise) with Tippia suggesting "noctium" because latins would not just transpose a genitive into its plural, they'd use the proper noun made into plural. If we really want to "force-noun-plural" a genitive then we may as well consider it a developer fantasy made name and call them Noctises.




Honestly that makes no sense.

If using the genitive one cannot just haphazardly switch to the proper noun form and use the plural of that and have it make grammatical sense at all. Unless you know this somehow because you were 'there' with the ancients.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-21 12:11:48 UTC
Tippia is wrong and Vaerah is right.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#17 - 2013-01-21 12:13:51 UTC
What would the plural of "primae noctis" be?

Since Noctis is a noun, not part of a phrase, I think it's safe to assume that English style pluralisation is appropriate: "Noctises". Or if you want to sound like a bobo (that's a French perjorative for "hipster", derived from "bourgeoisie bohemian") you could try fancy false-Latin endings such as Noctii or Noctium. That will impress your dumb friends in the noob PvP corp, but won't pass muster on the forums.

Latin's a dead language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient Romans, and now it's killing me!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2013-01-21 12:14:38 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:


Since Noctis is a noun,



It isn't.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#19 - 2013-01-21 12:16:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:


Since Noctis is a noun,



It isn't.


What is it then? When I point at that spaceship and call it a Noctis, am I lying?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2013-01-21 12:18:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Mara Rinn wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:


Since Noctis is a noun,



It isn't.


What is it then? When I point at that spaceship and call it a Noctis, am I lying?



lol. I know, it is a crazy case indeed. It's a manufactured use of the word turned into a noun.

edit: at least the developers of the old game "Noctis" used it properly as the title translated "Of the Night".

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