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Sol System and the collapse of the EVE Gate

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Lashmer Cascada
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-21 04:40:04 UTC
If I remember right, the EVE Gate collapsing decimated the New Eden system, leaving only 1 planet remaining. If I read right, the wormhole was discovered in the Sol System. So, what happened to Earth? If the collapse only left behind the barren planet in the New Eden system, were the celestial bodies in the Sol System also destroyed?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-01-21 04:46:10 UTC
wat?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-01-21 04:49:42 UTC
The new eden WH was not in Sol.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#4 - 2013-01-21 04:52:14 UTC
The story makes no mention of earth being anywhere near the Eve gate. Mankind had already expanded to cover the entire milky way galaxy long before the Eve wormhole was discovered.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-21 05:00:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The new eden WH was not in Sol.


Didn't they name the WH "Eve?"

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#6 - 2013-01-21 05:01:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Oh you didn't know? The wormhole didn't actually move the ships to another location, they just moved them ahead through time by about 5,000,000 years or so. You're actually still in the Milky Way but it's geography has changed since we left so it looks like a different galaxy. The Jovians, Sleepers, Takmahl, Yan Jung, etc, are all just other Earth-born human civilizations that rose and fell during the gap.

Thought everyone already knew this?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#7 - 2013-01-21 05:02:02 UTC
uh no, I m still here, Earth is still here it didn't blew up, just pluto stopped being a planet :( poor pluto.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-01-21 06:01:09 UTC
funny. these warp gates remind me of the mass relays in Mass Effect universe.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-01-21 06:16:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
The mass relays in Mass Effect remind me of the stargates in EVE Online. I guess it's important to know that I started playing EVE long before I heard of Mass Effect (as anything other than "the game where you can have a lesbian affair with one of your crew).

But as Baltec1 said: the wormhole connecting Earth to New Eden was not located in the Sol system: we had developed star gates and warp drives long before discovering the New Eden wormhole.

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Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-01-21 06:48:24 UTC
Shepard Commander it is all the jove fault

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-21 07:04:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The new eden WH was not in Sol.

Sol is the name of our star, also known as Sun.
Not the name of the system.
LOL56
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#12 - 2013-01-21 07:05:20 UTC
The time travel argument is bull. Stellar movements are pretty predictable, the first or second set of explorers would have noticed if it was the same place but a different time (even by a few Billion years). It also Doesn't work because star creation is still going strong in New Eden, and its just starting to wind down in the Milky Way.
Vrexstus Mercana
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-21 07:11:11 UTC
LOL56 wrote:
The time travel argument is bull. Stellar movements are pretty predictable, the first or second set of explorers would have noticed if it was the same place but a different time (even by a few Billion years). It also Doesn't work because star creation is still going strong in New Eden, and its just starting to wind down in the Milky Way.




Shepard Commander the organic meatbag poses a point.

Cease Communication.

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Frying Doom
#14 - 2013-01-21 07:11:58 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
uh no, I m still here, Earth is still here it didn't blew up, just pluto stopped being a planet :( poor pluto.

Yes I agree Michael Brown should be tared and feathered. Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#15 - 2013-01-21 07:15:30 UTC
LOL56 wrote:
The time travel argument is bull. Stellar movements are pretty predictable, the first or second set of explorers would have noticed if it was the same place but a different time (even by a few Billion years). It also Doesn't work because star creation is still going strong in New Eden, and its just starting to wind down in the Milky Way.

So you are proposing backwards in time?

And lets be honest most humans are too stupid to ever do any thing like adjusting celestial arcs for time, buggered if I would think of that to be host if I suddenly ended up on another planet.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#16 - 2013-01-21 07:15:36 UTC
Vrexstus Mercana wrote:
Shepard Commander it is all the jove fault


mockingly I do not think Legion had the capacity to blame or find fault.

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#17 - 2013-01-21 09:03:54 UTC
Earth had expanded, under the drive of massive corporate superpowers, as far as stargates could take us; competition for the space we'd managed to get had already resulted in wars which might have ended our entire species... and then we found EVE.

EVE gave humanity's corporations something to do beyond killing each other, another vast star cluster to explore and to claim.

The likelyhood is that the EVE cluster is not outside the Milky Way, it certainly isn't another galaxy in and of itself, it's far to small. But it is likely that the space claimed around Earth by the time of EVE's discovery was of a similar scale.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-01-23 08:23:39 UTC
Lashmer Cascada wrote:
If I remember right, the EVE Gate collapsing decimated the New Eden system, leaving only 1 planet remaining. If I read right, the wormhole was discovered in the Sol System. So, what happened to Earth? If the collapse only left behind the barren planet in the New Eden system, were the celestial bodies in the Sol System also destroyed?


From the book that came with the original EVE box:

Quote:
It's 7700 AD and the human race has been colonizing their galaxy for 4000 years. It seems like the Golden Age of space faring is never going to end. Then a massive natural wormhole is discovered, leading to an unknown sector of the universe.

This portal held endless possibilities of a new beginning for civilization and was hence dubbed "EVE." Lured by the promise of free settlements, entrepreneurs and independent organizations poured through the wormhole to stake their claims in this new land.

Scientists warned that the wormhole would close again within a few decades. Racing against time, construction began on a man-made portal to allow safe passage between the home system and EVE.

Suddenly, the scientists' worst fears were realized and the wormhole closed. Nonetheless, construction continued and the gates of EVE opened and operated perfectly for seven decades. Disaster struck once again. An unexplained phenomenon engulfed the Gates of EVE, rendering them inoperable. Restoration efforts proved futile due to the malevolent magnetic storm perpetually surrounding the gates. The results were swift and devastating. The fledgling settlements found themselves cut off from the old world, on which they were still heavily dependent.

Lack of oxygen, water and food had a catastrophic effect on the colonies and only the strongest managed to survive and reproduce. Scientific knowledge and high-tech industry dwindled with each generation. Tools and materials once take for granted diminished and disappeared.

Of the surviving colonies, several small, independent factions and states were formed. For thousands of years, these scattered groups lived and grew in isolation from each other. Environmental differences led to evolutionary changes, making each group distinct in appearance and behavior. Ultimately five of these colonies emerged to become the major empires that hold the balance of power in the world of EVE today.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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  • Qolde
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#19 - 2013-01-23 09:55:30 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Oh you didn't know? The wormhole didn't actually move the ships to another location, they just moved them ahead through time by about 5,000,000 years or so. You're actually still in the Milky Way but it's geography has changed since we left so it looks like a different galaxy. The Jovians, Sleepers, Takmahl, Yan Jung, etc, are all just other Earth-born human civilizations that rose and fell during the gap.

Thought everyone already knew this?

LOL56 wrote:
The time travel argument is bull. Stellar movements are pretty predictable, the first or second set of explorers would have noticed if it was the same place but a different time (even by a few Billion years). It also Doesn't work because star creation is still going strong in New Eden, and its just starting to wind down in the Milky Way.

Both of you are forgetting a major factor: the science in the back story is only as thorough as CCP's understanding of it. There are several big theories about new eden, sleepers, etc. that maybe don't make sense to a physicist but you can't really count on the devs to be consistent...

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-01-23 10:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD TYPE40
As EVE's lore is something that has always fascinated me, I think perhaps the OP and others should watch this:

EVE Intro circa 2005


The wormhole was not in the Sol System, but rather halfway across our Galaxy, perhaps on the outer edges. That wormhole traversed a vast portion of the known universe and deposited any travellers in to an entirely new Galaxy. Enjoy the video and hopefully it clears up a few misconceptions Cool


EDIT: Updated post with link to better quality video Big smile

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