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Hazzard
Chaotic Dynamics
#1 - 2013-01-20 17:00:08 UTC
Why doesn't CCP post on Kickstarter for the development of additional features/expansions that a subset of the Eve community would like.

One example is walking in stations. A Kickstarter campaign would let people donate so CCP could staff-up and bang a few of these features out, without it taking resources form the core focus of eve: internet spaceships.

It would be an interesting experiment that would cost CCP nothing to try. As far as I'm aware Kickstarter has never been used in this way to help fund a game expansion (could be wrong.)

People that are passionate about the feature could pledge on Kickstarter. Those that don't want to spend additional money etc wouldn't have to, it's completely opt-in.


Do you think CCP should give this a try?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-01-20 17:00:53 UTC
I don't think CCP's problems stem from a lack of money.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-01-20 17:03:15 UTC
I don't think CCP actually has any problem.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#4 - 2013-01-20 17:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Azorria
CCP is an Icelandic company, by law only US or UK companies can use kickstarter.

Do you see the problem?

EDIT: Turns out Kickstarter opened up to UK companies in October 2012 - doesn't change the fact that CCP is Icelandic though.

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Citizen Smif
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-20 17:06:14 UTC
Even if CCP could use Kickstarter I think it would be a mis-use of what Kickstarter represents. Really all they would be using it for is for prepayment from their customers, or a risk-free investment.. Either way, it's not something I would support.

As one of the above poster's said, CCP's problems aren't from a lack of money.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#6 - 2013-01-20 17:09:57 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
CCP is an Icelandic company, by law only US companies can use kickstarter.

Do you see the problem?


ORLY?
Renzo Ruderi
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-20 19:57:27 UTC
Hazzard wrote:
Why doesn't CCP post on Kickstarter for the development of additional features/expansions that a subset of the Eve community would like.

One example is walking in stations. A Kickstarter campaign would let people donate so CCP could staff-up and bang a few of these features out, without it taking resources form the core focus of eve: internet spaceships.

It would be an interesting experiment that would cost CCP nothing to try. As far as I'm aware Kickstarter has never been used in this way to help fund a game expansion (could be wrong.)

People that are passionate about the feature could pledge on Kickstarter. Those that don't want to spend additional money etc wouldn't have to, it's completely opt-in.


Do you think CCP should give this a try?


No.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#8 - 2013-01-20 20:04:43 UTC
Sirinda wrote:
Grey Azorria wrote:
CCP is an Icelandic company, by law only US companies can use kickstarter.

Do you see the problem?


ORLY?

Your point? You can back projects no matter where you are, but you can't get backing unless you're in the US or UK - CCP is neither.

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Hannah Flex
#9 - 2013-01-20 21:06:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't think CCP's problems stem from a lack of money.


The problem with EVE is the lead designer/developer. Money isnt a problem but they are currently developing 2 new games along with current upkeep on EVE, the 2 new games being funded by EVE whether we like it or not.
Shalia Ripper
#10 - 2013-01-20 21:15:02 UTC
Hannah Flex wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't think CCP's problems stem from a lack of money.


The problem with EVE is the lead designer/developer. Money isnt a problem but they are currently developing 2 new games along with current upkeep on EVE, the 2 new games being funded by EVE whether we like it or not.



Is the implication here that since we as subscribers give money to CCP for one product we can tell them what they are allowed to spend money on?

It is a business, not a democracy. The entitlement of some MMO fans makes me laugh and cry at the same time.

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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#11 - 2013-01-20 22:16:01 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Your point? You can back projects no matter where you are, but you can't get backing unless you're in the US or UK - CCP is neither.


When did they close their office in Atlanta?

Also, laws are made by governments, terms of service are made by companies. If you want to spout off about something, at least get your facts straight.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2013-01-21 00:02:02 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Sirinda wrote:
Grey Azorria wrote:
CCP is an Icelandic company, by law only US companies can use kickstarter.

Do you see the problem?


ORLY?

Your point? You can back projects no matter where you are, but you can't get backing unless you're in the US or UK - CCP is neither.


It takes what, a couple hundred dollars to start a US corporation? I'm sure this is not out of CCP's reach. In fact, they already have an Altanta office that they can base it from. Assuming what you say is true - I am too lazy to verify it.
Dave Stark
#13 - 2013-01-21 00:06:58 UTC
why would they want to finish waste of space in stations?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-01-21 00:08:32 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Sirinda wrote:
Grey Azorria wrote:
CCP is an Icelandic company, by law only US companies can use kickstarter.

Do you see the problem?


ORLY?

Your point? You can back projects no matter where you are, but you can't get backing unless you're in the US or UK - CCP is neither.


CCP had an office in Georgia (the state, not the ex soviet bloc), don't know if they still do but loophole perhaps? Big smile

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Hannah Flex
#15 - 2013-01-21 00:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannah Flex
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Is the implication here that since we as subscribers give money to CCP for one product we can tell them what they are allowed to spend money on?

It is a business, not a democracy. The entitlement of some MMO fans makes me laugh and cry at the same time.


No, but they have created a council of players to be a sounding board and give feedback to try and keep them from doing astoundingly dumb things like Incarna.

EDIT: And also the many highly intelligent and well-thought out suggestions by skilled and competent/experienced individuals for what can be done to revitalize/revamp 0.0 which continues to be thoroughly ignored in favor of 'other things' the shelved POS work also comes to mind.
Hazzard
Chaotic Dynamics
#16 - 2013-01-21 00:14:45 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
why would they want to finish waste of space in stations?


While I agree the captains quarters isn't useful atm, the concept of being able to leave your ship and visit a bar/ market / do the salvaging they've been looking at etc, holds promise at least to me, and I believe others too.

Dave Stark
#17 - 2013-01-21 00:16:53 UTC
Hazzard wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
why would they want to finish waste of space in stations?


While I agree the captains quarters isn't useful atm, the concept of being able to leave your ship and visit a bar/ market / do the salvaging they've been looking at etc, holds promise at least to me, and I believe others too.



only if i can start a bar fight with you, for suggesting such tomfoolery.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-03-20 15:11:41 UTC
+1 to the idea
Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
#19 - 2013-03-20 15:15:02 UTC
How about this... It's a project about 4 Eve Players are working on. Support you fellow EVE players!

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#20 - 2013-03-20 15:16:09 UTC
Nice necro of a new and original thread.


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