Science & Industry

Who cares? it'll be a badly thought out plan badly implemented and badly received.

Yes I'm cynical and yes I'm glad I don't subscribe for 12 months at a time.


But I'll happily wait until the change happens just to see what they screw up.

it won't make high sec poorer at all, minerals will find a new equilibrium price and nothing will change.

removing 100% refining from high sec stations will give people like me, who mine almost exclusively, a reason to leave the npc corp and interact with other players. as it stands high sec corps can offer miners absolutely **** all. with how cheap it is to move a freighter of minerals to jita, ore buyback schemes are completely uncompetitive, and "we have orca boosts" just means instead of my orca giving me boosts, it'll just be hauling... which it does anyway, i don't "gain an extra miner" like most people would imagine if some one else is boosting for me, that character just becomes a glorified hauler.

is it going to be a complete hassle just to keep what i have now? yes, yes it is and i'm going to hate it. however, at least CCP are trying to address the issue that people who's primary activity is mining really aren't being offered anything by being social.

also, null sec is fully of empty systems. i doubt any of the sov holding alliances would refuse to install an industrial corp in them.
industrial corp gets a system to upgrade so they have access to hidden belts, and they can get access to production slots (even if there are a limited amount)
the alliance gets a corp that helps seed the local market with stuff so the logistics pilots have to import less from jita thus reducing their burden and meaning they don't want to go and throw themselves in front of a bus quite as quickly.

this idea actually has a lot of merit to it, provided it's not a change done in isolation.

don't really care who ccp seagull are, or about dueling.
beyond that there's nothing interesting in the devblogs, and if there is they shouldn't be lumped with such boring stuff.

I love the way themeparkers think, every good changes in EvE are always perceived as bad.

You can't touch their safe haven isk fountain.

I love hearing about these "enclaves of 100% safety" where I supposedly live and mine 23.5/7 Please tell me more.

Also, the superveld that is being discussed isn't a giant veld roid. Its a different type of veld that refines at a significantly higher rate; thus making it worth mining.

Personally, I would prefer to see the refine rates of ABC ores changed to include more trit and pyrite, with the trade off of less mega and zyd.

Fundamentally, we are dealing with 2 groups of people running null sec, and to a great deal, influencing CCP. (Remember, Soundwave was pulled from goons, among many other devs and designers pulled from null).

The first group are the zealots, the true believers. They believe that null sec methodology is the only way to play the game. The source of this zealotry can be from strictly ingame manipulation by the second group, or if their real life beliefs have bled through, also through indoctrination / propaganda from a real life group. This group believes that social darwinism be it ingame, out of game, or both, is the only path to Eve's and CCP's success in the long run.

Then we have the second group, the cynics, the selfish ones. They don't care about balance or fairness or viability.
They only believe in acquiring more power / wealth for themselves, by any means necessary.
They are the ones that feed the zealots, the weak-minded, the propaganda, the pressure over time, molding the opinions of the ones with minds that can be confused and coerced.

This second group uses the first group as shock troops, as pawns, in the ongoing war against any opposition, be it ingame, metagame, or the game creators themselves. The goal of the second group, the cynics, is to crush all said opposition.

This second group is far dangerous, because they are typically intelligent, and masters of understanding human nature.
And because of that intelligence, and understanding, they can manipulate many to do their bidding, yet do this without believing any of the propaganda and lies they use to control the masses.

Eve is no different that real life in that aspect. History is riddled with figures that have manipulated, lied, and led the masses to feed the leader's wants and needs, however base or "noble" , in the eyes of said leader.
Typically, this has lead to a massive downfall eventually, but it can take a long time, and the carnage to the point of that downfall can be catastrophic.

I think this attack on high sec industry is such an example of the greed and never ending thirst for power from a group that have politicked / manipulated themselves to a position of power with the game and metagame.