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BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-01-19 17:23:32 UTC
Hello!

At this time I would like to wonder why we can not place them only on moons? Have we looked in to the fact if we could place them any were in the system?

stations - 1 AU
gates - 1 AU
other POs - 500KM -1 AU
custom offices - 1AU




Am I wrong in asking how hard is this to change?
Sixx Spades
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-01-19 17:37:56 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
other POs - 500KM -1 AU

Are you trying to make a conga line?

Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future.
Whitehound
#3 - 2013-01-19 17:39:51 UTC
I read sometime back that this was being discussed by CCP as part of a POS mechanics overhaul.

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Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-01-19 17:43:45 UTC
3 good reasons:

-Removing cause for conflict is counter to eves design. The limited space for good POS's is a large driving force for such conflict.

-Limited room for POS's encourages players to spread out.

-Could you imagine how nightmarish it would be for a system with hundreds of POS's?
Octoven
Stellar Production
#5 - 2013-01-19 18:22:00 UTC
Thgil Goldcore wrote:
3 good reasons:

-Removing cause for conflict is counter to eves design. The limited space for good POS's is a large driving force for such conflict.

-Limited room for POS's encourages players to spread out.

-Could you imagine how nightmarish it would be for a system with hundreds of POS's?


True enough you need conflict for eve to survive, but I don't think POSes play as an important factor in that as they used to. POSes used to take days to set one up and days to take down. However, you can throw up a pos in as little as 4-6 hours. Yet it still takes more than a day to take one down. In theory, POS structures should be going up faster than can be taken down and this presents a problem.

The limited room does encourage players to spread out, but you have a large portion of towers in high sec that are not serving any purpose other than place holding a moon. Anchoring a tower to a moon made much more sense when moon mining was introduced. The starbase had another purpose other than just being a pre-station outpost as was designed.

CCP wants us to have hundreds of POSes in a system, they want us to interconnect them with each other on the same grid like a city. The more you have interconnected, the more powerful you become, and the more powerful become, the greater target you have for attack.

Removing towers from moons does not dilute the potential for conflict, I think it rather enhances it. The problem is the ratio in placing and taking down a POS, the enemy can place or even replace destroyed towers faster than you can take them down. With that issue I believe targeting starbases as a means to remove an enemy is futile and creates an eventual running out of space for POSes.
Ginger Barbarella
#6 - 2013-01-19 18:23:39 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
At this time I would like to wonder why we can not place them only on moons?


So, how's that wondering working out for you?

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#7 - 2013-01-19 19:58:52 UTC
Octoven wrote:
Yet it still takes more than a day to take one down.


I mean yeah ok there's the reinforcement timer if the tower is stronted, but the actual taking down is a matter of 5-10 minutes. Bring more dreads?
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#8 - 2013-01-20 02:58:44 UTC
Octoven wrote:
CCP wants us to have hundreds of POSes in a system, they want us to interconnect them with each other on the same grid like a city.

Source?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-20 03:43:21 UTC
FluffyDice wrote:
Octoven wrote:
CCP wants us to have hundreds of POSes in a system, they want us to interconnect them with each other on the same grid like a city.

Source?


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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#10 - 2013-01-20 04:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Sixx Spades wrote:
BEPOHNKA wrote:
other POs - 500KM -1 AU

Are you trying to make a conga line?

It would be something new to look at, if nothing else.

After implenenting this idea, add extra-long range station guns, so POS managers can get in on station-v-station PvP. Name the new themed expansion: "Station Wars."


Thgil Goldcore wrote:

-Could you imagine how nightmarish it would be for a system with hundreds of POS's?

People would be PvP'ing just to make room to reach their stations. Stations would be blapping excess traffic just to keep their fields of fire clear. It's would be glorious, glorious havoc!
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