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WWII lard washes up on beach

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#1 - 2013-01-18 20:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
'The fat is believed to have escaped from the wreck of a merchant vessel that was bombed in WW II. Scottish Natural Heritage said the lard was still a brilliant white and smelled "good enough to have a fry up with."'
This raises a number of questions:
-So lard can sit around for over 65 years and not spoil? Does that mean bacteria doesn't like pig fat? So can we use it as a preservative? Say, for easily spoiled things like fish, shrimp, mayonnaise, bananas and egg salad. Or as an additive for personal care goods such as tooth paste and face creams.
-Why didn't the sea life eat that pig grease? If it's good enough to go into human pastries and tortillas, why isn't it good enough for for a fish? Or even some invertebrate bottom feeding scavenger?
-If fish indeed don't like it, could it be used as a piranha, barracuda, or even shark repellent?
-Would eating foods with lots of pig fat (bacon, hot dogs, salami, bratwurst, knackwurst, chorizo, boudin, pepperoni, L'il Smokies, bologna, Spam, pork chops, etc.) confer a similar anti-bacterial preservative benefit? Are we overlooking what could be a very beneficial health food?
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#2 - 2013-01-18 21:47:23 UTC
All good questions that demand answers. We must unlock the mysteries of lard.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Calico-Jack Daniels
#3 - 2013-01-18 21:53:52 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
All good questions that demand answers. We must unlock the mysteries of lard.


Hah! Fat chance...... see what I did there... har har har.

I go well with Quafe...

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-18 22:40:05 UTC
Lard makes the best pastry.
Lard makes the best bacon.
Lard makes the best chips. (No America, those are not chips, those are Crisps)


Funfact: Lard was used as a cheaper replacement for butter in poorer areas of England for a long time.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2013-01-18 22:41:53 UTC
Ill go smear myself up with lard tonite so that I may live forever.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#6 - 2013-01-18 23:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Kitty Bear wrote:
Lard makes the best pastry.
Lard makes the best bacon.
Lard makes the best chips. (No America, those are not chips, those are Crisps)


Funfact: Lard was used as a cheaper replacement for butter in poorer areas of England for a long time.

Oh yeah, you're speaking gospel now. But of course, lard is just a cheap substitute for bacon grease. That's the king of all pork drippings. You know how French chefs tend to use heavy cream to add flavor to almost everything? Or the way Thai food uses coconut milk a lot? You can do the same thing with bacon grease.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2013-01-18 23:43:09 UTC
Here we go.

Years from now, when people are in stasis to long voyages through space, they will be stored in huge cylinders of bacon grease.


There's much good to be said about that, but would I want to use bacon fat that was near my butt crack?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-01-19 03:38:37 UTC
Fats and oils act as sealants.

A large thick mass as that will basically be an impenetrable blob to bacteria and water, and has no oxygen inside it so decay cannot occur.

So yes, it will stay perfectly preserved.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2013-01-19 04:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Khergit Deserters wrote:
'The fat is believed to have escaped from the wreck of a merchant vessel that was bombed in WW II. Scottish Natural Heritage said the lard was still a brilliant white and smelled "good enough to have a fry up with."'
This raises a number of questions:
-So lard can sit around for over 65 years and not spoil? Does that mean bacteria doesn't like pig fat? So can we use it as a preservative? Say, for easily spoiled things like fish, shrimp, mayonnaise, bananas and egg salad. Or as an additive for personal care goods such as tooth paste and face creams.
-Why didn't the sea life eat that pig grease? If it's good enough to go into human pastries and tortillas, why isn't it good enough for for a fish? Or even some invertebrate bottom feeding scavenger?
-If fish indeed don't like it, could it be used as a piranha, barracuda, or even shark repellent?
-Would eating foods with lots of pig fat (bacon, hot dogs, salami, bratwurst, knackwurst, chorizo, boudin, pepperoni, L'il Smokies, bologna, Spam, pork chops, etc.) confer a similar anti-bacterial preservative benefit? Are we overlooking what could be a very beneficial health food?


In order:
Yes.
Bacteria cannot live inside it as there is no oxygen.
Not a preservative, a sealant.
Why would you want it in toothpaste?
Fish eat other fish and plankton. They wouldn't know what to do with it and probably couldn't digest it.
Since the fats obviously do not spread into the water (it would have dissolved if so), how could it be used as a repellant ?
It has no anti-bacterial properties itself. But a mass of it can contain no oxygen for bacteria to grow.
No, despite the yumminess, there are not really any health benefits here.

But I have a question for everybody.

What the HECK happened to our educational system ??????

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-19 04:40:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Bacteria cannot live inside it as there is no oxygen.


Uh, lots of bacteria don't need oxygen. In fact it's a good way to kill some species (for example the bacteria that causes botulism poisoning).

And take it from the farm boy: lard will sure as hell go rancid.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-01-19 04:42:48 UTC
Coming soon to a school canteen somewhere in Scotland. Chips cooked in WW2 lard.

Take that, Jamie Oliver! Then again, lard is quality stuff. All natural and not loaded with E numbers.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate

Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#12 - 2013-01-19 04:47:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlepetit LaJoie
I think you're missing the bigger question:

Why are they making Scottish people smell stuff that drifts ashore?

--Did they lose a bet? Do Scots all belong to some insane fraternity? Do they need to smell everything that drifts in, or only when the tourists are watching?
Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#13 - 2013-01-19 07:40:34 UTC
Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:
I think you're missing the bigger question:

Why are they making Scottish people smell stuff that drifts ashore?

--Did they lose a bet? Do Scots all belong to some insane fraternity? Do they need to smell everything that drifts in, or only when the tourists are watching?


There is very little light that far north during the winter, plus if you open your eyes up there they may freeze and rupture, the Scots other senses have evolved to compensate. They rely primarily on their sense of smell, as many things are so cold to touch that you are unable to let go until frostbite facilitates the easy removal of your fingers.

They navigate by scent trails laid during the summer months, when it doesn't really get dark for 3 months. This can prove tricky when driving a modern car that turns the air recirculation on by itself, effectively blinding the driver and causing accidents. Luckily most Scots are too tight to pay extra for climate control.

So in summary they sniffed the lard as it is the only sense available to them during the winter months.

Disclaimer: the furthest north I've been is Cumbria so the above is just conjecture/bollocks.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2013-01-19 09:17:35 UTC
Suddenly an urge for "Fish and chips" and I don't even know what the hell that is beyond hearing you blasted red coats making references to it in films.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#15 - 2013-01-19 10:02:24 UTC
Fish and chips is mostly over rated, especially the traditional cod. It looks like fish, it smells faintly of fish, tastes of nothing. Good chips, cooked in beef dripping, are a thing of wonder however.
Reiisha
#16 - 2013-01-19 11:58:49 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
or even shark repellent?


Oh my god.... Batman was right!

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-01-19 12:13:57 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Bacteria cannot live inside it as there is no oxygen.


Uh, lots of bacteria don't need oxygen. In fact it's a good way to kill some species (for example the bacteria that causes botulism poisoning).



Uh, but you won't find those bacteria in the water of the North Sea. Also, they cannot penetrate the very medium of the lard.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2013-01-19 12:16:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Kurfin wrote:
Fish and chips is mostly over rated, especially the traditional cod. It looks like fish, it smells faintly of fish, tastes of nothing. Good chips, cooked in beef dripping, are a thing of wonder however.



I know a few restaurants here in San Fran that would beg to differ as I do.


edit: In Florida I've had them as made with grouper fish ! Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Shalia Ripper
#19 - 2013-01-19 13:30:18 UTC
What I want to know is how exactly this free floating lard was identified as coming from a WWII ship?

P.S.

Second thought was "I thought they knew where Herman Goering was buried"

Sig blah blah blah blah

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2013-01-19 13:31:54 UTC
Shalia Ripper wrote:
What I want to know is how exactly this free floating lard was identified as coming from a WWII ship?

P.S.

Second thought was "I thought they knew where Herman Goering was buried"



The lard is in the shape of the wooden barrels used to store it which have long since rotted away.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

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