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Care-bears may be physically unable to PvP

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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#181 - 2013-01-19 13:18:13 UTC
bing
Doc Severiide
Doomheim
#182 - 2013-01-19 13:31:58 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.

Bah !!!

Try this:

"I have had sex with 30 women in a row, for 3 hours a day, every day for 30 days with one day off for before starting again for the last 30 years..."

Sound plausable?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#183 - 2013-01-19 13:40:16 UTC
Whitehound wrote:

You are not an industrialist. Your a Goon and one of Bat Country and you gank freighters.

You now want everyone else believe that when you talk of "we" that you are now a carebear?

You are here only to cause drama. What's new about that?


I own a POS dedicated to building ships and POS fuel that I sell in high sec. Every day I manage my industrial affairs.

Just because I am a goon and go around killing fools with too much isk doesn't mean I cant enjoy insdustial activities. Infact I am trying to get in contact with battleclinic because their manufacturing tool needs updating.
Whitehound
#184 - 2013-01-19 13:46:00 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I own a POS dedicated to building ships and POS fuel that I sell in high sec. Every day I manage my industrial affairs.

Just because I am a goon and go around killing fools with too much isk doesn't mean I cant enjoy insdustial activities. Infact I am trying to get in contact with battleclinic because their manufacturing tool needs updating.

And you also go into orphanages every weekend where you tell the kids your stories?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#185 - 2013-01-19 13:59:26 UTC
Whitehound wrote:

And you also go into orphanages every weekend where you tell the kids your stories?


I see my activities have sent you into a downward spiral of "does not compute". I better not tell you that most of us Bats have industrial interests because it might just melt your mind.
Dave Stark
#186 - 2013-01-19 14:00:52 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Whitehound wrote:

And you also go into orphanages every weekend where you tell the kids your stories?


I see my activities have sent you into a downward spiral of "does not compute". I better not tell you that most of us Bats have industrial interests because it might just melt your mind.


do it, if his mind melts then he might stop posting.
Whitehound
#187 - 2013-01-19 14:02:00 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Whitehound wrote:

And you also go into orphanages every weekend where you tell the kids your stories?


I see my activities have sent you into a downward spiral of "does not compute". I better not tell you that most of us Bats have industrial interests because it might just melt your mind.

Or you could have just said "yes" and we all could have had a laugh.

Should we now talk about what you are unable of or keep this for another thread?

Hint: Just say "yes"

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#188 - 2013-01-19 14:36:47 UTC
I've seen ads on the internet about this prescription medicine that can help you "perform"

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#189 - 2013-01-19 15:04:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Whitehound wrote:

And you also go into orphanages every weekend where you tell the kids your stories?


I see my activities have sent you into a downward spiral of "does not compute". I better not tell you that most of us Bats have industrial interests because it might just melt your mind.



I'd have guessed that's why you gank freighters to begin with. Makes sense.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#190 - 2013-01-19 15:22:14 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
You are here only to cause drama. What's new about that?

Whitehound has evidently trained Psychological Projection V.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Whitehound
#191 - 2013-01-19 15:35:49 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
You are here only to cause drama. What's new about that?

Whitehound has evidently trained Psychological Projection V.

More drama.

Just like baltec1 do you post only to crap this thread into inexistence, unless someone like me comes along and points it out to you. You have similar inabilities like everyone else. It makes us individuals as well as somehow equal. Accept it, embrace it and become someone greater, or don't and be sad and bitter. That's the choice you have.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#192 - 2013-01-19 15:40:52 UTC
Whitehound wrote:


Just like baltec1 do you post only to crap this thread into inexistence, unless someone like me comes along and points it out to you. You have similar inabilities like everyone else. It makes us individuals as well as somehow equal. Accept it, embrace it and become someone greater, or don't and be sad and bitter. That's the choice you have.



Given that my posts mostly have facts in them and yours all have insults Id say that you were the one sending this topic to the pile.
Whitehound
#193 - 2013-01-19 15:49:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Given that my posts mostly have facts in them and yours all have insults Id say that you were the one sending this topic to the pile.

Your fact was that everyone has got the same options.

I showed you where your inabilities are while we both have the same options available - we both have keyboards.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#194 - 2013-01-19 16:46:30 UTC
Dont think its physically unable to pvp, but more mental. If an unknown ship shows up and they lose bodily functions, they have bigger problems than eve.

I remember feeling like a deer in headlights many years ago my first pvp experience, and I was prepared. However, as time progresses and the losses rack up, your nerves get use to the rush and you actually fight back.

If you fall off the horse....get back on it.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#195 - 2013-01-19 17:59:39 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:

Eve's lifeline depends on those two aspects working in conjunction and balanced in distribution. Problem is, while people whose doing PVP can do industry or say in a hypothetical scenario where all the carebears (people whom refuses to do anything related to PVP in any way) are gone from Eve, they will do them in the carebears place and actually, many PVPers right now are doing that exact thing (both shooting at each other with one char and doing pve/industry stuff with another). What about the other way around? if say all PVPers are gone from Eve, would the carebears step up and keep the balance between production and destruction/supply and demand? right, they won't, they will just quit the game for the simple fact that they already determined to not doing PVP in the first place and just waiting for the inevitable economic collapse.


I actually agree with you in that carebears and PVPers depend on each other. Where I disagree with you is in that if all carebears left PVPers would simply fill in the void and Eve would be just fine. This may be true at first. But, if those that seek to PVP are now having to spend more time carebearing it up they will tire and wear out rather quickly. In other words, if you're primary enjoyment is PVP and you're now having to spend 80% of your time doing industry to support your PVP habit you won't last very long either. The harcore PVPers will probably be the first ones to go if they are having to spend more time doing activities they simply don't enjoy.

As a side note (this may not apply to you), but I find it amusing that the "hardcore elite" PVPers who criticize carebears for engaging in "insanely boring" activities are usually the ones to claim they will fill the void if industrialists and carebears were to dissappear from the game.

There are two types of people who plays Eve

  • Those whom accepted the facts that this game is heavily based on conflict and PVP are everywhere and they consent on being involved in a PVP game every time they logged in, regardless of what they're doing, be it full time mission runner, incursion runner, explorer, trader, full time miner (yes, even miners), WH residents, nullsec residents, pirates, bounty hunter, etc. these people, are PVPer or potential PVPer.
  • Those whom have never accepted the fact that this is a PVP game, refuses to be involved in any form of conflict in any way possible and refuses to accept the fact that in a sandbox game, people can go and visit your sandcastle and kick it on to their face, these people in my definition, are what I called carebears.


The point being was that industrial and PVP activities are not mutually exclusive when it comes to PVPers. I've seen alot of PVPers who does industrial stuff as well, from trading, mining, research, manufacture, PI, reactions, etc. ; infact I rarely seen any PVPer who doesn't interact with any industrial side of the game at all. So no, your argument is invalid, "hardcore PVPer" (I'm not sure whom you were referring to with this phrase) can do industrial activities just fine.

Carebears on the other hand (please note that I'm using this term for people whom refuses to be involved in PVP in any way possible, not merely people who does PVE), have always stated very clearly and to put quite simply, they won't do PVP, at all, as defined by the term itself. See the difference here?

Hardcore PVPers are not as common as you think, if by your definition it means those people who does absolutely nothing else besides blowing other people up, then by all means, they don't even exist. Everyone interacts with the industrial side one way or the other, some delves right into it, some merely touches the surface, the important thing is that they (PVPer) don't hands down reject the notion of industry or PVE. So if we brought these two principles and apply it to that hypothetical scenario, guess who'll most likely fill out the gaps afterwards?

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Ginger Barbarella
#196 - 2013-01-19 18:29:23 UTC
I blame video games. It's creating a generation of violent sociopaths whose only desire is to sit behind a keyboard, punching text into a chat or Forum, and make one batch of shiny pixels transform into another batch of shiny----

Hey, wait a second!!!! Shocked

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#197 - 2013-01-19 18:51:36 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
i have no interest in pvp (fighting pvp,market pvp is what im looking for) in eve yet i have more than 10 000 frags in wot over 4 months

am i carebear or not? X


WOT doesn't count

Why not? Its a PVP game isn't it?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#198 - 2013-01-21 00:44:20 UTC
Maybe everything will change if this goes to 11 pages?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#199 - 2013-01-21 01:02:32 UTC
*push page more

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#200 - 2013-01-21 01:45:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
Just like baltec1 do you post only to crap this thread into inexistence, unless someone like me comes along and points it out to you. You have similar inabilities like everyone else. It makes us individuals as well as somehow equal. Accept it, embrace it and become someone greater, or don't and be sad and bitter. That's the choice you have.

Given that my posts mostly have facts in them and yours all have insults Id say that you were the one sending this topic to the pile.

In any case, some topics need to be sent to ~the pile~, so I thank you for your efforts, whichever of you wishes to take credit.

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