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whats best ship to solo a c3 WH in?
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claytis
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#1 - 2013-01-19 13:15:09 UTC
if isk is not, lets say tight......

whats the best ship to solo a C3 WH in?

T3?
BS?

I am looking to get into the WH seen after a long time in 0.0 and have got bored of blobs..... any help or info about anything regarding WH would be higly useful :)

regards
claytis
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-01-19 13:38:28 UTC
It obviously depends on your targets, but generally "true soloing" C3 ratters is not an easy feat, they have decent active omni tanks, meaning that you'll want to push at least 600 dps, preferably 800, and a neut or two will be very helpful, and you need to have enough tank to withstand both the target's and sleeper fire while you gank it.

You'll also want a covert ops cloak, so a T3 is preferred choice.

I've only used a BS (Mega) once to kill a Golem running our home sites with his Drake pal.

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claytis
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#3 - 2013-01-19 13:43:00 UTC
i mean doing the sites myself not killing people that is doing them :),

i know im a PVPer but i gotta earn isk also :)
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#4 - 2013-01-19 13:47:53 UTC
Tengu. It's just the best all around. Although dual XL-ASB Maelstrom can do em too if you want a BS option, not sure about other BS but there aren't that many BS rats in C3s so I'm not sure about how well they can tank/project.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2013-01-19 13:53:13 UTC
claytis wrote:
i mean doing the sites myself not killing people that is doing them :),

i know im a PVPer but i gotta earn isk also :)


In that case you should probably take 30 seconds to browse this forum section or use the search for any of the 193002181 older threads containing the very same question.

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Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-19 14:23:13 UTC
Well-skilled Tengu with some faction fittings. Most likely the shield booster.

I suggest using EFT to suit your budget because I notice many PvE popular modules for the tengu cost a fair bit.

The Guns of Knowledge 
Irya Boone
The Scope
#7 - 2013-01-19 14:27:15 UTC
OH come on this thread again?

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
claytis
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#8 - 2013-01-19 14:32:41 UTC
you could always send a link instead of moaning about the post?

and thank you to the above guys for help :)
Narzis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-19 21:31:13 UTC
Vargurs can do the job very easy and fast. Machariels too.

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Winthorp
#10 - 2013-01-19 23:19:56 UTC
Search function seriously its just lazy to not use it, it will also avoid terrible answers like vargurs and machs.
Nicor Syke'Nexen
#11 - 2013-01-20 00:43:26 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Search function seriously its just lazy to not use it, it will also avoid terrible answers like vargurs and machs.


are you kidding?

besides tengu, machariel is probably the best C3 WH solo ship. I'm also hearing good things about the algos for the same job.
Winthorp
#12 - 2013-01-20 00:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Search function seriously its just lazy to not use it, it will also avoid terrible answers like vargurs and machs.


are you kidding?

besides tengu, machariel is probably the best C3 WH solo ship. I'm also hearing good things about the algos for the same job.


I never said it couldn't do C3's i said its a stupid response. You can be as safe as you want but doing C3's in a machariel will attract attention the likes that a tengu, legion and BS wont attract, and i do know people that have logged out in C3 bear systems waiting for a machariel to run his sites again. A Machariel is overkill for a C3 and just plain stupid.

EDIT: Hence why the search function will provide many tried and tested far cheaper and disposable ship options for a C3.
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-01-20 12:11:44 UTC
I recommend a faction fitted pirate BS. Nothing beats them for getting them done in the least amount of time possible

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Tash'k Omar
Indefinite Mass
#14 - 2013-01-20 18:53:10 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
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Although dual XL-ASB Maelstrom can do em too if you want a BS option, not sure about other BS but there aren't that many BS rats in C3s so I'm not sure about how well they can tank/project.


Is this viable? I feel like lugging around that many cap charge 400s would get tedious and become a logistical nightmare.

How does a Sleip do? I've EFTwarriored some fits and it looks incredibly good.
CeNSeR
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-01-20 21:45:56 UTC  |  Edited by: CeNSeR
Winthorp wrote:
Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Search function seriously its just lazy to not use it, it will also avoid terrible answers like vargurs and machs.


are you kidding?

besides tengu, machariel is probably the best C3 WH solo ship. I'm also hearing good things about the algos for the same job.


I never said it couldn't do C3's i said its a stupid response. You can be as safe as you want but doing C3's in a machariel will attract attention the likes that a tengu, legion and BS wont attract, and i do know people that have logged out in C3 bear systems waiting for a machariel to run his sites again. A Machariel is overkill for a C3 and just plain stupid.

EDIT: Hence why the search function will provide many tried and tested far cheaper and disposable ship options for a C3.


I would like to ask why you would not kill said Machariel the first time you saw it running sights in a c3 and have to log out in the system just to catch him again.

Also if you see a drake running sites is that less likely to get ganked ?
Because that seems to be what your implying.

Pilots use the Machariel for pvp is that just stupid also?

I can understand please use the search function response but op is just asking a simple and honest question and all it requires is a simple and honest response from pilots who have been there and got the t shirt.
Winthorp
#16 - 2013-01-20 22:02:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
CeNSeR wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Search function seriously its just lazy to not use it, it will also avoid terrible answers like vargurs and machs.


are you kidding?

besides tengu, machariel is probably the best C3 WH solo ship. I'm also hearing good things about the algos for the same job.


I never said it couldn't do C3's i said its a stupid response. You can be as safe as you want but doing C3's in a machariel will attract attention the likes that a tengu, legion and BS wont attract, and i do know people that have logged out in C3 bear systems waiting for a machariel to run his sites again. A Machariel is overkill for a C3 and just plain stupid.

EDIT: Hence why the search function will provide many tried and tested far cheaper and disposable ship options for a C3.


I would like to ask why you would not kill said Machariel the first time you saw it running sights in a c3 and have to log out in the system just to catch him again. Also if you see a drake running sites is that less likely to get ganked ? because that seems to be what your implying.


Well they are very easy to spook in their home C3 most of the smart bears will have scouts on Wh's and probes out while they farm to look for new sigs. Sure if they are not smart enough to do this then they will just die when spotted but if not its easy to just log a couple of alts in and get it later from the inside when they farm with all their precautions.

EDIT: But again use search function to get a ship a third of the cost of a stupid ship.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#17 - 2013-01-22 10:07:44 UTC
CeNSeR wrote:
Also if you see a drake running sites is that less likely to get ganked ?
Because that seems to be what your implying.

Of course it is. When I see a Drake ratting and he saw me entering and retreats to his POS I move on and roll the hole. When the same happens with a Macha I stay around longer, hoping for him to resume ratting or do something stupid. And nobody logs out in a system to get a Drake later, but people do this for catching a Macha.

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Rezaa
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#18 - 2013-01-22 14:23:05 UTC
claytis wrote:
if isk is not, lets say tight......

whats the best ship to solo a C3 WH in?

T3?
BS?

I am looking to get into the WH seen after a long time in 0.0 and have got bored of blobs..... any help or info about anything regarding WH would be higly useful :)

regards
claytis



I would go with a T3, I had a lot of good results with a Legion, but a Tengu obviously will do the job too I just couldn't fly one at the time. I didn't save my Legion fit, but it had an extra cap recharger so it could remain cap stable while being drained by 2 rats.
(was probably a bit of overkill but I was new to wormholes at the time), and it had about 600 dps.


I wouldn't go with anything big and expensive though, assume the ship is lost when you purchase it ;)