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For all Caldari, a call to arms.

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Vikarion
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-19 06:47:02 UTC
Over one hundred years ago, our ancestors rejected the twisted ideals of the Gallente Federation, and overthrew our Gallentean overlords. We threw off the yoke of Gallente cultural domination, and refused the offer of Gallente populism.

This choice was the most costly ever made by the Caldari people. The Gallente and Mannar, faced with such a challenge to their imperialism and doctrine of a united humanity under a Gallentean flag, blockaded our planet and began the slow starvation of our people. Whatever one thinks about the events that followed, it is inarguable that an attempt was made to reduce the Caldari population to a few scattered survivors hiding in the hills.

They failed. And not for want of trying. But by courage, and sacrifice, men such as Sobaseki, Tovil-Toba, and others fought the Federation Navy over Gallente Prime, evacuated our citizens from their burning homes and towns, and in doing so, showed the universe what it meant to be Caldari.

And not they alone. The Gallente were not idle, were not willing for their planned serfs and puppets to be removed so quickly and easily. When they could, they turned the transports back to the surface for slow starvation, or, often, simply obliterated them with men, women, and children being cast to the void. But our civilians, our citizens, we Caldari, we still boarded the shuttles, crammed ourselves into industrial haulers, bunked down in every corner of every merchantman converted to an emergency warship. As our homeworld taught us, we endured.

Over the next century, our struggle against the Federation continued. They spent the next century attempting by force what they have never ceased to dream of – the conquest and assimilation of the State. Our cause for war is obvious. The Gallente have never accepted our right to our homeworld, they have continually interfered in Caldari affairs – to the point of trying to move troops onto our planets, such as in Kassigainen – and they have been conducting ceaseless economic warfare against all of our corporations since Fouritain came to power, subsidizing their exports while heavily taxing ours. This last becomes especially clear when one realizes that every other nation in the cluster, including the Minmatar Republic, has heavily invested in Caldari goods.

But whether one agrees with our cause for belligerence or not, the fact is that we are at war with the Gallente Federation once again. They have pushed deep into Black Rise, our rightful territory. They are killing our citizens and filming it for their unwashed masses (http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5025&tid=6). They are bombarding our worlds, destroying the infrastructure we have sacrificed so much to build. The State, the Caldari people, are at risk.

There are many who disagree with the current leadership of the State. There are those who find Heth loathsome, those who disagree with some of his policies, and those who simply want an excuse to linger in Providence, the Empire, or the Republic, or do not want to lose access to the markets and entertainments of the Federation.

Know this, then, you who desire to hide from the light of duty. The State is at risk. The Gallente have never desired anything other than the complete subjugation of the Caldari people, and they are dedicated to it. If you believe the Caldari should have the right to self-determination, to freedom, to the right to our own destinies, you must make that choice by actions, as well as words. The Federation strives to take from us our economic liberty, our megacorporations, our way of life, and our beliefs, and to place over us overlords who will be selected by the Gallente and Mannar, who will not hold the position by merit, nor use it for the good of the Caldari, but line their own pockets and those of their political allies, as they always have.

You say the war is empty. Fine. Let it be an empty war on Gallentean soil. Let them find others to film for their snuff flicks. Let them suffer.

You say that you do not enjoy the faction wars. Do you think that Caldari Naval personnel enjoy it? Do you think that Caldari civilians enjoy bombardment from orbit, blockade, losing family as escape transports are blasted out of the skies, starving to death on blockaded planets? The Federation is the greatest threat to the State and the Caldari people, and always has been.

Join the State Protectorate. Fight those who would destroy our State and the Caldari people. By your words, you prove nothing. Only in actions do we find true loyalty, patriotism, and duty expressed. Only by blasters, missiles, autocannon, and lasers will the Gallente be driven back. Making posts on this board is worthless. Talking about the State in the Summit is worthless. Complaining about Heth in the Heiian College is worthless. Shooting targets in 0.0 is worthless.

If you do not fight for the State when it needs you most, you are not loyal to the State. If you do not support the Caldari in their time of need, you are no Caldari. If you do not put your blood on the line when the blood of our people is being shed, you are not of our blood. If you do not strive with us, you are not of us.

Fight with us. We shall overcome. We have tasted the bitterness of defeat, we shall also grasp victory. Our enemies shall kneel, we shall have our home, and all who stand in our way will be as dust.

For the State. For ourselves. For our people. The Caldari rise.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-19 06:59:16 UTC
Empty propaganda, full of falsehoods and blame-shifting. I expected better from you, Vikarion, and I'm already questioning why.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#3 - 2013-01-19 07:03:29 UTC
Is anyone else tired of all the cries of "God Wills it", "We come for our people", "Burn the Federation" and "We elect the people who corrupt our society, therefore we are better then you"? Could some one please put on a new record please?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-01-19 07:05:32 UTC
TL;DR

I should buy an Ishtar.

Vikarion
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-01-19 08:03:32 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Empty propaganda, full of falsehoods and blame-shifting. I expected better from you, Vikarion, and I'm already questioning why.


You seem to expect that because I agree that peace would be possible given certain conditions (pre-war borders and Caldari retention of the Homeworld), that I must also like the Gallente Federation, or not fight for the State. These are not viewpoints requiring simultaneous belief, and I want to see this war ended on terms dictated from New Caldari, not Villore.

The Caldari State has always been militaristic. We all go through mandatory military training, we all are taught the values of self-sacrifice, duty, and loyalty. You may believe that the government of the State is illegitimate, in which you would be joined by the Federation governments of the last two hundred years. However, what the Gallente, or the Amarr, or the Minmatar think of our government does not matter to the Caldari. Heth rules as long as the Caldari people find him of merit to do so, and no longer.

You seem to think that the Caldari should find themselves at fault for the current hostilities. That isn't going to happen. If we thought that we were wrong to fight, we wouldn't be fighting. We Caldari do not live by Intaki, Gallente, Mannar, or anyone else's laws. We live by Caldari laws, by Caldari traditions, and by Caldari ideals. How we live up to those things, is a Caldari argument, for Caldari to engage in. And while we might agree that peace is to be preferred to war, we agree on those points for different reasons, arrived at differently.

Let me be quite clear: the Caldari do not seek the good of the Federation, nor do we care for it. We care for the Caldari State, and that above all.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-19 08:08:18 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
You seem to expect that because I agree that peace would be possible given certain conditions (pre-war borders and Caldari retention of the Homeworld), that I must also like the Gallente Federation, or not fight for the State.


I expect you not to openly and transparently lie about things that are easily falsifiable - and ever more clearly I find myself questioning whether my advocacy for the Caldari people is worth the breath it takes for me to speak it. The State's current intentions are clear - the Templis Dragonaurs fight openly for the Caldari. The terrorists and murderers who brought the ocean raining into Nouvelle Rouvenour, who declared that "the last thing the Gallenteans will hear is the sound of their children screaming" - they fight for the State, not as ostracised criminals, but openly, with authorisation from the very State that bemoans the yesteryear orbital bombardment of its civilians.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-19 08:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
I expect you not to openly and transparently lie about things that are easily falsifiable - and ever more clearly I find myself questioning whether my advocacy for the Caldari people is worth the breath it takes for me to speak it. The State's current intentions are clear - the Templis Dragonaurs fight openly for the Caldari. The terrorists and murderers who brought the ocean raining into Nouvelle Rouvenour, who declared that "the last thing the Gallenteans will hear is the sound of their children screaming" - they fight for the State, not as ostracised criminals, but openly, with authorisation from the very State that bemoans the yesteryear orbital bombardment of its civilians.


You appear to be under some misconception that this fact should somehow provoke some sort of outrage by Caldari. The history of the Caldari has always been written in blood, and just as in the past so shall it be in the future. What is life but to seek that perfect, sublime moment when the final cut is made to release us from this mortal existence in duty and death? Life for a Caldari is merely the preparations made to perfect oneself for that moment when Death is demanded, either of oneself or of ones own enemies.

The Templis Dragonaurs have always understood this simple fact better than others.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-01-19 08:51:17 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
You appear to be under some misconception that this fact should somehow provoke some sort of outrage by Caldari. The history of the Caldari has always been written in blood, and just as in the past so shall it be in the future. What is life but to seek that perfect, sublime moment when the final cut is made to release us from this mortal existence in duty and death? Life for a Caldari is merely the preparations made to perfect oneself for that moment when Death is demanded, either of oneself or of ones own enemies.

The Templis Dragonaurs have always understood this simple fact better than others.


Ah so! It's "savagery" when we kill your civilians, but "art" when you kill our civilians. Gotcha.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Aquila Shadow
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-19 08:54:59 UTC
In my line of work i have met many Dragonaurs but one will always stick in my mind for what she said to me. I had asked her why she was on that particular planet and she responded "We are here to dance the dance of death".

Very artful in my view.

                                              "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword"

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-01-19 09:07:22 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:


Ah so! It's "savagery" when we kill your civilians, but "art" when you kill our civilians. Gotcha.


No, it's that war never changes in its cruelty and the only precept when fighting one is to embrace duty and death in order grant the strength necessary to ensure final victory.

In a Total War in which the entirety of a nation is either fighting on the frontlines or manufacturing the weapons of conflict, there exists no such thing as a civilian. There can be neither mercy, compassion nor humanity for ones enemies when the stakes involved are national survival.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Atlas Zao-tsu
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-01-19 09:13:39 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Making posts on this board is worthless.


I've heard it said that a wise man takes his own advice. Would that you were wise.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-19 09:16:27 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
In a Total War in which the entirety of a nation is either fighting on the frontlines or manufacturing the weapons of conflict, there exists no such thing as a civilian. There can be neither mercy, compassion nor humanity for ones enemies when the stakes involved are national survival.


But we're not in a total war, and national survival is not at stake - unless the entire Caldari State would implode if you lost the homeworld again.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Vikarion
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-01-19 09:18:49 UTC
Atlas Zao-tsu wrote:
Vikarion wrote:
Making posts on this board is worthless.


I've heard it said that a wise man takes his own advice. Would that you were wise.


Context matters. My statement is that talking about supporting the State is worthless. It must be supported by deeds.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-01-19 09:24:17 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

But we're not in a total war, and national survival is not at stake - unless the entire Caldari State would implode if you lost the homeworld again.


I was referring to the War of Caldari Independence, not the current CEWPA conflict, Mr. Ixiris.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#15 - 2013-01-19 09:33:09 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
In a Total War in which the entirety of a nation is either fighting on the frontlines or manufacturing the weapons of conflict, there exists no such thing as a civilian. There can be neither mercy, compassion nor humanity for ones enemies when the stakes involved are national survival.


But we're not in a total war, and national survival is not at stake - unless the entire Caldari State would implode if you lost the homeworld again.


We may not be in a total war, no. National survival is still not quite the issue, even if it is getting very close to that. It is still most likely past the point of no return. We can't de-escalate from here. How much blood floods how many worlds in the warzone? How many corpses float in every single system between us?

How much power have the Provists and whatever the Feddie zealots call themselves gotten with every act of war?

It frankly doesn't matter whether you agree with the war or not. It doesn't matter where you stand politically or morally. It has gotten to the point where the end of war can only come through one side being victorious, or some cataclysmic event changes New Eden enough to change priorities. That even the Sansha couldn't do that speaks quite eloquently of just how insane such a force would have to be to prevent an eventual total war.

I'm not betting on it and heiian demands that I take part in protecting my State. Unlike the frothing warlords trying to whip up frenzies like Vikarion up there, I have no intention of joining the Protectorate though. My skills are ill-spent in combat and at most I'll just be a nuisance. Even as a capsuleer, it'd appear I remain a Technician. I will build ships. I will build ammunition.

It won't be much and I will have to charge enough to offset my own costs, but I will do my part for the State nonetheless.

Anvatkaa, Protectorate. I'll find my own way to ease your fight, if only a little.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#16 - 2013-01-19 10:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Solarienne
I don't care much for the back and forth of ethics, moralising and verbal sparring for advantage going on in here, so I will keep this brief.

Vikarion, this is an inspiring call to arms, and I hope that it reaches the ears of those seeking direction in their lives. The life of a capsuleer is far removed from our former ones in the State and this can be trying, possibly warping it into self-interest or worse, the adoption of foreign ideals. Some bear the torch to null sec or Anoikis, serving their nation in some small way while still embracing their new lives as capsuleers and this is a good thing. But for the many who aimlessly roam, lost in a world of choice that seems to almost demand self obsession, your call provides a beacon.

Direct military service for your nation is the most patriotic act any nation's citizens can aspire to. For Caldari capsuleers it falls just barely short of a mandated obligation. I respect any Caldari who pledges their ships and life to the values as espoused by the State and CPD, I honour the ones who choose to fly Protectorate colours while doing so.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Vikarion
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-01-19 10:43:46 UTC
Solarienne wrote:
I don't care much for the back and forth of ethics, moralising and verrbal sparring for advantage going on in here, so I will keep this brief.

Vikarion, this is an inspiring call to arms, and I hope that it reaches the ears of those seeking direction in their lives. The life of a capsuleer is far removed from our former ones in the State and this can be trying, possibly warping it into self-interest or worse, the adoption of foreign ideals. Some bear the torch to null sec or Anoikis, serving their nation in some small way while still embracing their new lives as capsuleers and this is a good thing. But for the many who aimlessly roam, lost in a world of choice that seems to almost demand self obsession, your call provides a beacon.

Direct military service for your nation is the most patriotic act any nation's citizens can aspire to. For Caldari capsuleers it falls just barely short of a mandated obligation. I respect any Caldari who pledges their ships and life to the values as espoused by the State and CPD, I honour the ones who choose to fly Protectorate colours while doing so.


Thank you. You have grasped what I meant to communicate.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2013-01-19 10:57:53 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:


Ah so! It's "savagery" when we kill your civilians, but "art" when you kill our civilians. Gotcha.


No, it's that war never changes in its cruelty and the only precept when fighting one is to embrace duty and death in order grant the strength necessary to ensure final victory.

In a Total War in which the entirety of a nation is either fighting on the frontlines or manufacturing the weapons of conflict, there exists no such thing as a civilian. There can be neither mercy, compassion nor humanity for ones enemies when the stakes involved are national survival.


Interesting. If I understand correctly, does that make the Duvallier administration worth of these values as well ? The most enlighted of enemies the Caldari had to face ?

Jinari Otsito wrote:
It has gotten to the point where the end of war can only come through one side being victorious, or some cataclysmic event changes New Eden enough to change priorities. That even the Sansha couldn't do that speaks quite eloquently of just how insane such a force would have to be to prevent an eventual total war.


I find that point interesting. It made me think to all of these factionned pilots that want to get rid of CONCORD or consider it a nuisance. It also made me think that CONCORD is currently the only one protecting all of the four empires from the Sansha threat, since their navies are completely outdated and unable to face their new technology.

I wonder, after knowing that, that they still want to get rid of CONCORD to concentrate even more on their wishes for a total war.

With Sansha on their backs.
Davlos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-19 11:30:55 UTC
As a member of the Caldari diaspora, I respectfully decline. The interests of the Caldari remain in jeopardy so long as Heth remains at the helm.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-01-19 11:45:36 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:


Ah so! It's "savagery" when we kill your civilians, but "art" when you kill our civilians. Gotcha.


No, it's that war never changes in its cruelty and the only precept when fighting one is to embrace duty and death in order grant the strength necessary to ensure final victory.

In a Total War in which the entirety of a nation is either fighting on the frontlines or manufacturing the weapons of conflict, there exists no such thing as a civilian. There can be neither mercy, compassion nor humanity for ones enemies when the stakes involved are national survival.


Interesting. If I understand correctly, does that make the Duvallier administration worth of these values as well ? The most enlighted of enemies the Caldari had to face ?


President Duvailer, upon having chosen the path of War against the Caldari State would have been remiss of his duty to his chosen nation if he did not seek to use whatever means at his disposal to ensure the preservation of the interests of that nation. For when all moral actions are to be derived from the nation and the State, then President Duvailer acted in the morally correct fashion in seeking to cripple the Caldari State through blockade and orbital bombardment when having the means to do so in order to defend the interests of the Federation.

If, hypothetically, the situations had been reversed then it would have been a moral failure if the Caldari State had not conducted a blockade and bombardment of Gallente Prime if it had the means to do so in order to defend its own interests against the Federation once war had been declared.

Does that make things clear, Ms. Farel?

Kurilaivonen|Concern

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