Science & Industry

I am looking to step up my game when it comes to mining what ship type could I move to that would out perform the venture besides mining barges?

I currently do not have the time to train all the skills. So I was curious what would provide a better alternative while I move through crusiers, bc, etc. The requirements of these ships seem much easier to meet compared to that of the mining barges.

Wow, i've never seen this forum get so pissy.

Anyhow, to the OP, there probably isn't really a non-barge upgrade to the venture in terms of an upgrade path.

When the venture came out, it basically replaced both the former mining frigates and cruisers. Fully skilled up I believe a venture will slightly out-mine the previously mining bonused cruisers.

So in the old system you'd use a frigate with mining bonuses (like a navitas) and then when you trained cruisers you could use a mining bonused cruiser (don't even know which those were). If you still enjoyed mining you could use a battleship as well, which I imagine still holds true.


Now, you train up the venture. If you really wanted you could eft a battleship to see it's yield.

Otherwise you take a week or so and train a retriever.

Even if it doesn't out-mine an Osprey, the Venture benefits hugely from having a large ore bay (5000 m3). It's convenient not to have to jetcan.

It's been some years since I last sucked roids in an Osprey, but I have a pretty good memory. Here's what I remember: Cargo capacity of around 1000 m3 if you pimped all LOW slots with T2 expanders. 3 Turret slots, +20% level bonus so at Caldari Cruiser skill 5, it has effective 6 miners. The Miner II laser sucks 60 m3/minute of ore, for a total of 360 m3/minute of ore.

So, 1000 m3 capacity, and 360 m3/min suck speed. How does that compare to a max skilled Venture? (I've only used my Ventures to suck gas for level 4 Mining Missions), so I never had any need to calculate yield.)

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There is no longer any ship that can reach a higher mining yield than the venture until you get into a barge.

Each race used to have a cruiser that had a mining bonus, the osprey was the best one. However with the recent ship re-balancing those bonuses where removed and the venture can now out mine all of them. The only skill you will use in a venture that will not benefit a barge later is the mining frigate skill. but if you only take that to 4 the training time is almost nothing. However the venture is currently the best gas mining ship in the game, so even once you are into a barge if you ever do gas mining you will use your venture.

Just work on your mining skills as most of them are needed to get into a barge anyway. A max skilled venture with drone mining augmenter rigs and T2 mining drones can pull in up to 980m3 per minute without any fleet boosts.

you will be far from that with low skills but no other ship can match the venture for mining yield until you get into a mining barge.

If your reason for staying away from mining barges is you do not plan on sticking with mining you can get into one of the teir 3 battlecruisers. they have 8 turret slots which can fit 8 mining lasers, but they have very little cargo hold. might work for jetcan mining.

At lvl 5 the venture slightly out gas collects any unbonused 5 harvester ship.

even if you can find ship beside mining barge that mine better than Venture. good chance that it require longer training time than it would take to drive mining barge. you only need 6-7 days for mining barge. and most likely that mining barge will be cheaper to fit.

thing to noted, Mining barge can equip strip miner which according to other player make yield that can be only dream for venture driver.

He obviously dont want to mine or he would want to train for barges right away. Dont read! Understand!