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any Proteus lv 4 mission running advise?

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Meng 80
YinGZhei Cen
#1 - 2013-01-18 18:52:58 UTC
I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting?
I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster.
Thanks!
Carol Krabit
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-18 19:16:04 UTC
While not very efficient, blaster Proteus for the occasional mission might be fun. I'd fit one like this:

[Proteus - Blaster MWD]
Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier


Hammerhead II x5

Of course insert pimp where you want it, maybe a quicker mwd. If cap isn't stable, maybe switch some mod to less draining complex ones. Void bumps the damage a bit against bigger ships. Small ones will crumble fast enough anyway.
Vaeliel
Slander Acquisitions
#3 - 2013-01-18 19:16:14 UTC
Yep! Buy a Tengu. :D


Seriously though, blasters suck for missions. The reason is range.

Here are some stats I've found to be pretty good baselines:

1. Tank: 400-500ish burst; be able to sustain it for about 3-5 minutes. Shield tanking is best for MOST cases, unless you're in Amarr territory... At which point you should give up and go elsewhere because **** tracking disruptors.
2. Spank: 550 - 600 minimum guns / missiles only DPS (don't count drones in this)
3. Range: 60 kilometers minimum
4. Drones: T2 Hobgoblins and Warriors, you will need no others.

Get those, and you'll be a mission running machine. The Proteus can't do the range. :(

Great mission battleships, depending on who you're running against and assuming decent skills:
Raven is kind of meh, but will do the job if you're careful
Raven Navy Issue is quite a bit better
Apocalypse or Abaddon suck unless you're shoosting Bloods or Sansha, the latter of which you won't hit
Maelstrom is a great ship for Bloods, Angels, Serpentis (if you can stand the ******* ridiculous damping)
I've heard the Megathron with rails can do alright
Dual LAR Dominix with T2 sentries and a few tracking links has been known to be pretty good

If you have the money to blow on a Proteus, you might be able to afford:
Rattlesnake - Drones + missiles, the two wins of PVE together in one though I've not flown one
Machariel - I LOVE MY MACHARIEL... can hit out to 60km comfortably with autocannons, HUGE DPS, great against almost anything

........Of course, if you aren't serious about doing missions efficiently, by all means burn to blaster range for every target on the field. I advise you to fit a Federation Navy web.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2013-01-18 19:22:11 UTC
Meng 80 wrote:
I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting?
I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster.
Thanks!


Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions.

in the meantime... MWD, armor tank, faction magstabs, guns. Pretty simple.

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Vaeliel
Slander Acquisitions
#5 - 2013-01-18 19:28:54 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions.



This would be the TL:DR version of my post.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-18 19:32:32 UTC
Vaeliel wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions.



This would be the TL:DR version of my post.


Alternately, covops fit it and gank ppl with it.
Meng 80
YinGZhei Cen
#7 - 2013-01-18 19:56:34 UTC
Vaeliel wrote:
Yep! Buy a Tengu. :D


Seriously though, blasters suck for missions. The reason is range.

Here are some stats I've found to be pretty good baselines:

1. Tank: 400-500ish burst; be able to sustain it for about 3-5 minutes. Shield tanking is best for MOST cases, unless you're in Amarr territory... At which point you should give up and go elsewhere because **** tracking disruptors.
2. Spank: 550 - 600 minimum guns / missiles only DPS (don't count drones in this)
3. Range: 60 kilometers minimum
4. Drones: T2 Hobgoblins and Warriors, you will need no others.

Get those, and you'll be a mission running machine. The Proteus can't do the range. :(

Great mission battleships, depending on who you're running against and assuming decent skills:
Raven is kind of meh, but will do the job if you're careful
Raven Navy Issue is quite a bit better
Apocalypse or Abaddon suck unless you're shoosting Bloods or Sansha, the latter of which you won't hit
Maelstrom is a great ship for Bloods, Angels, Serpentis (if you can stand the ******* ridiculous damping)
I've heard the Megathron with rails can do alright
Dual LAR Dominix with T2 sentries and a few tracking links has been known to be pretty good

If you have the money to blow on a Proteus, you might be able to afford:
Rattlesnake - Drones + missiles, the two wins of PVE together in one though I've not flown one
Machariel - I LOVE MY MACHARIEL... can hit out to 60km comfortably with autocannons, HUGE DPS, great against almost anything

........Of course, if you aren't serious about doing missions efficiently, by all means burn to blaster range for every target on the field. I advise you to fit a Federation Navy web.


Thanks for the advise. Do you know what Proteus can do in PVE?
Meng 80
YinGZhei Cen
#8 - 2013-01-18 19:58:06 UTC
Carol Krabit wrote:
While not very efficient, blaster Proteus for the occasional mission might be fun. I'd fit one like this:

[Proteus - Blaster MWD]
Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier


Hammerhead II x5

Of course insert pimp where you want it, maybe a quicker mwd. If cap isn't stable, maybe switch some mod to less draining complex ones. Void bumps the damage a bit against bigger ships. Small ones will crumble fast enough anyway.

will try this. Thanks for the tips
Canabi
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#9 - 2013-01-18 20:24:24 UTC
Meng 80 wrote:
will try this. Thanks for the tips


He basically just said eff you guys and your good advise.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-18 20:48:03 UTC
Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace.
Carol Krabit
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-01-18 20:58:31 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace.


This. People tend to get caught up in the ISK/H calculations and disregarding the elusive "fun" that can be derived (surprisingly I know) from other things than maximizing profits.
Flakey Foont
#12 - 2013-01-18 21:46:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Carol Krabit wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace.


This. People tend to get caught up in the ISK/H calculations and disregarding the elusive "fun" that can be derived (surprisingly I know) from other things than maximizing profits.


I agree. Proteus is a blast if not the most efficient L4 boat. I have used a fit similar to the one posted above, Here is one with T1 rails:


[Proteus, Lets try]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

10MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-18 22:32:26 UTC
The Proteus can do all PVE and of all the T3’s I would suggest it has the most configurations Drones, Blaster or AB Rails, I do not feel it falls far behind the Tengu when facing Kin/Therm Enemies such as Serpentis.

Start with more tank and then reduce as you become more comfortable.

Use more than one mission ship, Proteus will complete all missions but the more you move off it’s racial resists the more tank and less gank you will need, an Ishtar or Domi on standby for missions against Angels or where there are long range webbing towers is very useful.

I would recommend focusing on Kin/Therm missions Serpentis , EOM, Guristas and against the Caldari State. Use something like this to start.

[Proteus, Blasters Serpentis]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Large Capacitor Battery II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Vespa II x5
Hornet II x5

Should be capstable even with slightly lower skills and this is where the higher quality Microwarpdrive and repper helps. The Dual TE and TC with optimal range script are key Null range is 8.9+25km. Carry a few ammo types use Antimatter as standard but Null and Void have uses. Null can be used to pop frigates destroyers at range.

Alternatively swap the blasters to 250mm rails and TE to a Magstab and fit a RF Afterburner.

This is mine for Serpentis including things like World Collide, I use a two slot tank.

[Proteus, Blasters Faction]
Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Tracking Enhancer II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Large Capacitor Battery II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor II

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Vespa II x5
Hornet II x5
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#14 - 2013-01-19 02:38:30 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Alternately, covops fit it and gank ppl with it.

Ganking people running lowsec missions is definitely the best way to use a Proteus in missions.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2013-01-19 10:07:44 UTC
Running missions is bad for your ISK/hour, and no matter how much you invest in the ship, it's still not fun.

Move to Wecanhavenicetoys-space, fly your Proteus, the king of space with your friends like it was meant to, and use cheap T1 ships to make more money than hiseccers ever will in their officer fit machs.

.

Ellspeth Murdron
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-19 15:04:56 UTC
Here's a setup I like when I need a break from my 'Snake... good for L4 PVE.

Basically a cap stable MWD+Dual Armor Rep setup.

Proteus
Dissolution Sequencer
Nanobot Injector
Power Core Multiplier
Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Localized Injectors

6x Heavy Neutron Blaster II
10MN MWD / Large Cap Battery / Cap Recharger
2x Medium Armor Rep / 2x MagStab / Cap Power Relay / EANM / Armor Explosive Hardener

Medium Aux Nanopump II
Medium CCC II
Medium CCC I

5x Hammerhead / 5x Hobgoblin

You'll need some shiny mods and good skills to make it all fit.
Risien Drogonne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-20 19:26:31 UTC
As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2013-01-20 19:41:14 UTC
Risien Drogonne wrote:
As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game.

…and with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way.
Risien Drogonne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-21 06:29:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Risien Drogonne wrote:
As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game.

…and with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way.

But not as fun. It really doesn't get much more boring than a sentry drone boat.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-01-21 11:25:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…and with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way.

Ahem...
Meng 80 wrote:
I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster.
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