Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i think we need to ask WHY some ppl want a ship to have this ability.

and i think the answer is because some ppl hotdrop in ridiculous way.

they misuse the capability offered by titans because of a flaw in the way bridging is designed.

everything PVP related in eve is designed to be put at risk, any ship that take part, in a way or another, to combat, CAN be potentially destroyed.

a flaw was logi ship, which still had the capacity to dock any moment even if they were taking action in combat, and this has been corrected with the last update.

only ships now that remains able to take part in fight yet stay in pure safety are titans and black ops, that can just project forces, thus taking active part in combat, without being put at risk of destruction.

this is wrong.

make it so that the titans and Black ops are on the field, where they take the risk of being killed, like anyone that take part in the fight.

thus those using titans will have to think wisely about taking part of it.

this will stop silly hotdrop of 20+ gang to kill 2 cruisers, or at least give the opportunity for the "other side" to fight back ALL the ppl taking part in the combat.

i know a couple of ppl that would either stop dropping crazy stuff, or loose titans sooner or later.

ps: all this is also available to black ops indeed

all pvp pilot shall assess the risk when he take part in any fight, but not the titans pilots, they just don't care, they bridge and Voila. this is not the way eve claims to work

Check this thread.
Both things on the field should be grate ;)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182784&find=unread

My goodness, if there was a thirty second delay, local chat would not have enough time to warn the risk averse that they needed to get safe.

You could bring a fleet through a gate, and engage unsuspecting targets.

(Well, they could use intel channels, or dscan, and still be able to avoid you... but seriously, many won't bother)

well if it had a 1 minute cycle time during which you could not warp off . . . even if it were like 5 minutes with a 15% reduction per level (ends up at 75 seconds) that would basically stick them on grid; also if it had the same restrictions as the HIC when launching a bubble, it wouldnt be going anywhere fast.

Combining this with making it a T2 battlecruiser would mean that it isnt some cheap throw away ship that you can lose over and over and over again . . .

I think that should do it . . . in fact you could even do some pretty funny things like bait people into putting the field up and have your fleet hop the gate and pounce on them.

While i get that, what I would want to avoid is falcons bridging in and mucking up the fight . . .



I dont know i feel like this could add an interesting niche to the force recon class. instead of the useless time bonus, they could get a "resistance to directed cyno scrambling effects" on their cynos.

That would give someone incentive to use those ships for cynos instead of throw away frigates.


Agreed this thing in a POS would be totally OP, to affect the battlefield you should always have to put your ship in danger.

I am not happy about hot drops existing. That said, I respect they are present for a reason.

Remove the reason, and you remove the result.

I know many players are quite happy with the status quo, but that does not make it right.
Players who want to avoid conflict, can do so with no effort by watching local.
The ease of use and it's near absolute success rate is considered unbalanced by enough of the playerbase, that they created AFK Cloaking and subsequent Hot Dropping tactics to counter this free intel effect.

Many of us feel if this is ignored, the real problem will remain unsolved.
To be specific, that the near perfect ability to avoid risk with so little effort should be limited to high security space exclusively.

This kind of post is not constructive and only feeds the stereotype that the only people who want hot drops to remain as is in game are fools who cannot make coherent arguments.

However as I keep saying, and everyone seems to keep ignoring, this ship could not be used to avoid engagements; in fact this ship would be a liability to those looking to avoid engagements as it would be stuck in place for 1-2 minutes

what it would do is facilitate engagements between smaller fleets who would engage if they could mitigate the risk of having 500 people drop in and ruin your day.

There would be several ways to counter this ship:

1. baiting - you could bait the ship into launching its bubble, light a cyno off grid and warp the fleet in on top of him.
2. sniping - if the ship is unable to receive RR it should be a fairly trivial matter to just blow it up and launch the cyno anyway.
3. being faster - if you hit the button first, your cyno goes up then the bubble goes up, which, hilariously means that they cant counter drop you.

Hot drops are another uncounertable mechanic in the game; if youre fast enough there is literally nothing i can do to stop you from bringing in 248 of your closest friends to the party uninvited.

I guarantee this stops far more fights than it enables.

So you want to remove a valid tactic which is projecting a fleet?

In that state they're not using it for combat for a purpose, it's a f****** expensive ship. If people want to use one of it only for one of it's greatest assets while keeping it out of harms way that's their business, you should have to actually look for what system they're in like how you have to find jump bridges by probing for them

A tactical asset that isn't even being ised to it's fullest extent.

Once it's found you call the bubblers in to make sure it can't get away so it doesn't even matter if they're in a pos because thats when you bring in most of your corp/alliance