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Care-bears may be physically unable to PvP

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Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-01-18 13:20:42 UTC
Lyell Wolf wrote:
From my perspective,

I seriously dislike PvP. Not because I can't, mind you, but because I just hate the idea as a whole. This, of course, has led me to be less experienced than most of the PvPers out there. I don't have, as you call it, the training to perform as well as the others.

Now, it wouldn't take years to gain a decent skill in PvP, but perhaps a couple months.

As far as "Getting over that reflex", a week.

From,
A carebear




This does not make sense to me.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#62 - 2013-01-18 13:27:41 UTC
Clementina wrote:
I'm going to let the carebears here in on a little secret.

PvPers get afraid during combat too.




No, not really "afraid". Generally you reach a point where you are able to recognize a no win situation before it happens and try to take as many with you as you can before you go down. No one likes taking a loss because it probably means having to take the time to buy and re-fit a ship, or having to take the time grinding up the isk if it's a shiny ship. But I really wouldn't call that "fear". More like just "oh crap! lol! die die die die die aaaaaaaargh warp warp warp warp..... lol well at least I got that xxxx into structure" etc.

The PvPers know that victory is always possible. The care-bear believes destruction is the only outcome.
Doc Severiide
Doomheim
#63 - 2013-01-18 13:37:38 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
It's true, all of it.

I was horribly traumatized by my first gank, now whenever someone targets me my mind just freezes up and i can only think "IT'S ALL HAPPENING AGAIN!". I run away from the keyboard and start rocking back and forth in the corner, only returning to the computer screen hours later when i gather the courage.

Sounds like my experiences. Except I also pee my pants and occassionaly crap them too. That's why I have a case of adult diapers sitting beside my PC. Once I even got admitted to the hospital while babbling "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose". The ER Doctor says "Shut up newb"...
Tommas De'Wins
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-01-18 13:39:54 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
I’ve talked with a few carebears over the years and I have come to believe that they can’t PvP. Not because they don’t want to kill the griefers and gankers, but because combat is just not something they want to participate in.

Could there be more options for destroying things in Eve? Some non-dogfight in game mechanic that allows ISK to be blown up? Maybe something that bear style players would enjoy doing.

Like building viral POS's that destroy random combat modules on any ship that is in their system. Or being able to produce faulty modules and sell them on the open market (at a loss of course). Or self destruct ships that are like mega smart bombs!


I don't mind being wrong here, just a thought I had that I can't seem to shake. Any feedback is appreciated.


They are playing the wrong game ....
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#65 - 2013-01-18 13:50:42 UTC
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#66 - 2013-01-18 13:51:50 UTC
Are sigs HTML or BBcode? or something else entirely?
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#67 - 2013-01-18 14:06:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
A game that elicits the kind of physical reaction that I have felt in Eve is a very rare thing. It is perhaps CCP's greatest achievement, and perhaps one of the most important dynamics ever developed re computer simulations.

This feeling must be respected and encouraged and fostered by the player base.


My theory is because it mimicks the hunting that ancient humans did, and its one of the only few times in modern life the flight or flight response actually gets used
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#68 - 2013-01-18 14:14:14 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#69 - 2013-01-18 14:43:25 UTC
/Nova Fox points at cost of his clone*

The reason why I do not ever pvp anymore is that the rate I incurr Isk. To replace my clone would take me a year or so of work.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2013-01-18 14:48:16 UTC
What? What? how much does your clone cost?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#71 - 2013-01-18 14:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.


its only untrue in your mind
in pvp it is just a series of equations going against one another + pilot decisions on a limited range of inputs while pvp is in process (go faster go slower, go closer get away, over burn this turn that off, etc.).
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-01-18 14:52:32 UTC
Posting in another carebear hate thread.

Increasing my post ratting is good !!

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#73 - 2013-01-18 14:53:56 UTC
Total? Body alone is 100 millilon.
Implants 500+ million depending the location and markets.

None the less its not alot for some active players, but with college and the sorts I have been rather busy and focused on school and only have time to mess around with PI and small scale manufacutring, 600 million takes a while boding my time ensuring that my investments are not collaspable.

However every so often I do roll an alt for the sole purpose of retribution as well as getting others intersesting in pvp and they have a far more impressive kill records. Biggest kill so far was an officer fit megathron a few years back.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-01-18 14:54:26 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.


its only untrue in your mind


No it's a fact. Clicking a button to active your mining lasers is infinitely different than competing with a human being.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-01-18 14:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Nova Fox wrote:
Total? Body alone is 100 millilon.
Implants 500+ million depending the location and markets.

None the less its not alot for some active players, but with college and the sorts I have been rather busy and focused on school and only have time to mess around with PI and small scale manufacutring, 600 million takes a while boding my time ensuring that my investments are not collaspable.

However every so often I do roll an alt for the sole purpose of retribution as well as getting others intersesting in pvp and they have a far more impressive kill records. Biggest kill so far was an officer fit megathron a few years back.


Well considering that jump clones exist, the actual cost should only be around 100 mill. I don't think that is a lot for a 6 -7 year old player.

Is it really that hard to avoid being podded?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#76 - 2013-01-18 14:59:12 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.


its only untrue in your mind

You are not some kind of monk who has been contemplating life in a cave for decades. By your "logic" doing my taxes, watching porn, playing eve, and writing reports for work are all the same. They are not. They don't have the same results either in my mind or in RL.
So you go smoke some more blue moss or whatever, but don't expect a lot of encouragement for your self obsessed drivel.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#77 - 2013-01-18 15:00:37 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
there's no difference between pvp and mining
both is just a series of actions carried out on a computer screen

This is the most pointless and demonstrably untrue statement that I have ever seen with a name next to it.


its only untrue in your mind

You are not some kind of monk who has been contemplating life in a cave for decades. By your "logic" doing my taxes, watching ****, playing eve, and writing reports for work are all the same. They are not. They don't have the same results either in my mind or in RL.
So you go smoke some more blue moss or whatever, but don't expect a lot of encouragement for your self obsessed drivel.


lol
fine
is true though, go and try it
or dont
whatever, your game
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#78 - 2013-01-18 15:04:35 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
/Nova Fox points at cost of his clone*

The reason why I do not ever pvp anymore is that the rate I incurr Isk. To replace my clone would take me a year or so of work.



Eve Board says you have at most 120-odd million isk. Clones for you cost 45 million isk. You are going to tell me that you can't do that in an hour or two?
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#79 - 2013-01-18 15:04:47 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Posting in another carebear hate thread.

Increasing my post ratting is good !!



This is not a "care bear" hate thread. Its a thread about options for player created content. Are there options besides direct PvP combat for destroying someones assets? An option that carebears might enjoy.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#80 - 2013-01-18 15:06:39 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Total? Body alone is 100 millilon.
Implants 500+ million depending the location and markets.

None the less its not alot for some active players, but with college and the sorts I have been rather busy and focused on school and only have time to mess around with PI and small scale manufacutring, 600 million takes a while boding my time ensuring that my investments are not collaspable.

However every so often I do roll an alt for the sole purpose of retribution as well as getting others intersesting in pvp and they have a far more impressive kill records. Biggest kill so far was an officer fit megathron a few years back.


Well considering that jump clones exist, the actual cost should only be around 100 mill. I don't thing that is a lot for a 6 -7 year old player.

Is it really that hard to avoid being podded?


Well I did had an obsessed tracker once, he didn't like the simple fact I used to be covert patrol/infiltration during the war. Luckily in my hurbris I have dropped off the radar of alot of people who did not like me. He usually only shows up when I draw a picture and post it online and he goes all angry posting and then tries to kill me in game.

I think the cheapest JC I have now is 120 million isk with the hardwires in his head and hes not the combat orintated guy ><.

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