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[-WHG-] Public Announcement

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#81 - 2013-01-17 00:55:03 UTC
Sar'tek wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
The purpose for making public announcement of corporate activities is to hold ones' self (and ones' corporation) publicly accountable. WHG has always prided itself on its accountability.They have not bragged about their audit, they have merely stated the facts therein.


There is publically and then there is the dog and pony show this has evolved into. I am certain that the Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar military personnel reading these messages are having a good laugh at the States expense.


You don't think that your own contributions have aided this? Quite frankly I could care less about Gallentean's acting shocked, because from their perspective I imagine it seems precisely like a holoreel inquisition. Their questions and speeches at least come from a feeling of concern!

What motivated the contributions of Caldari such as yourself is a bigger mystery. If you're half the veteran you claim to be, there should have been nothing in this audit to concern or surprise you!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#82 - 2013-01-17 02:20:23 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
there should have been nothing in this audit to concern or surprise you!

The need for the audit with respect to the CPD and SLT directives/guidelines is the surprise.

Those of us outside of WHG and its Board of Directors are incredibly confused by the need to do so.



I see now that I asked the wrong question entirely when I entered this thread.

The very act of this audit indicates that WHG's Board of Directors has/had some concern about demonstrating compliance with those guidelines.

My question(s) should have been, "what did WHG gain by conducting the audit?" and "what was WHG's intention in making its occurrence so public?"

But in realizing those are my questions, I have come to my own answers.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2013-01-17 02:26:15 UTC
Wasn't the audit ordered by the Wiyrkomi board of Directors under advisement or in response to shareholder demand?

I'm sure that was in the initial declaration. The parent company ordered the audit and WHG simply made the relevant declarations in public, as required by CPD protocol and under specific instruction by the Board of Directors of the parent company.

When such an order comes down the pipeline, I really just focus on satisfying the requirements given to me.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#84 - 2013-01-17 03:14:08 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
This is public notification that the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard will be entering a period of internal personnel auditing and restructuring at the request of corporate stakeholders made during the course of a closed session of the Board on 27 December YC 114.


To me this implies it was directed by WHG's Board of Directors, not Wirykomi's Board of Directors. I understand the Broad is appointed by Wirykomi mostly, but it still appears to be an in
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#85 - 2013-01-17 03:34:33 UTC
We're a pretty lean organisation. I take my orders directly from the Commander, to my knowledge I've never even met anyone who serves on the WHG Board of Directors. I'm not even sure we have one.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#86 - 2013-01-17 04:20:26 UTC
Apparently you do, based on the the initial declaration.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#87 - 2013-01-17 06:29:47 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
there should have been nothing in this audit to concern or surprise you!

The need for the audit with respect to the CPD and SLT directives/guidelines is the surprise.

Those of us outside of WHG and its Board of Directors are incredibly confused by the need to do so.


We are? Oh I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo. I've been walking around feeling rather "whatever" about the whole thing. So what kind of confusion was this? Should I be yelling for clowns and bananas on the link? Selling stock? Demanding education and clarification from news sources? Down with this sort of thing, maybe?

WHG is willingly subjecting itself to an internal audit with public notifications for transparency. I don't see the problem or confusion here. It's a simple and straightforwards enough procedure, common enough that even I barely batted an eyelash upon seeing it.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Hamish Grayson
#88 - 2013-01-18 12:11:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Dex Nederland wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
there should have been nothing in this audit to concern or surprise you!

The need for the audit with respect to the CPD and SLT directives/guidelines is the surprise.

Those of us outside of WHG and its Board of Directors are incredibly confused by the need to do so.


We are? Oh I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo. I've been walking around feeling rather "whatever" about the whole thing. So what kind of confusion was this? Should I be yelling for clowns and bananas on the link? Selling stock? Demanding education and clarification from news sources? Down with this sort of thing, maybe?

WHG is willingly subjecting itself to an internal audit with public notifications for transparency. I don't see the problem or confusion here. It's a simple and straightforwards enough procedure, common enough that even I barely batted an eyelash upon seeing it.


It is understood by the Caldari in this thread that when a citizen of Nederland-haan's stature uses the pronoun 'us' or 'we' in this context that Jaijii are not included under it's umbrella. If any Jaijii fail to understand this, we don't really care.

I would also remind the pilots of WHG that while their current efforts in the warzone have been nothing short of heroic, they still have a little way to go before matching the impact that Dex Nederland has had on the war effort. We should consider these sort of things when choosing our tone in a public medium that's frequented by Jaijii. It's easy for us to forget that they might read what we write and that they are incapable of understanding that when we make a public release here, it's not meant for their consumption and that we are not interested in their feed back.

Respectfully,
Hamish Grayson
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#89 - 2013-01-18 12:29:28 UTC
I'm going to save up money to hire a rogue tattoo artist ninja. Every time idiots like you fail to recognize a Civire, he'll hunt them down and tattoo the fact on the inside of their eyelids. There must be a significant batch of you with severe ocular implant failures.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Hamish Grayson
#90 - 2013-01-18 12:33:46 UTC
Civire blood does not a Caldari make.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#91 - 2013-01-18 12:40:19 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Civire blood does not a Caldari make.


Citizenship and Heiian does. I've earned my stripes and you are most certainly not in any position to claim otherwise. Arrogant prick.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Hamish Grayson
#92 - 2013-01-18 12:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Civire blood does not a Caldari make.


Citizenship and Heiian does. I've earned my stripes and you are most certainly not in any position to claim otherwise. Arrogant prick.


Your demeanor speaks for it's self. However, I am a little curious about what you think you've done in the few months since your graduation besides join a self declared enemy of the Caldari State that qualifies as 'earning your stripes.'
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#93 - 2013-01-18 12:50:10 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:

It is understood by the Caldari in this thread that when a citizen of Nederland-haan's stature uses the pronoun 'us' or 'we' in this context that Jaijii are not included under it's umbrella. If any Jaijii fail to understand this, we don't really care.

I would also remind the pilots of WHG that while their current efforts in the warzone have been nothing short of heroic, they still have a little way to go before matching the impact that Dex Nederland has had on the war effort. We should consider these sort of things when choosing our tone in a public medium that's frequented by Jaijii.

Respectfully,
Hamish Grayson


The Wiyrkomi Honor Guard, its staff and its employees are beholden and pay deference only to its stakeholders and the lawful authorities and agencies of the Caldari State. Whilst your request may be taken under advisement, it does not change the purpose of this communique in being the public dissemination of information deemed pertinent to corporate transparency as dictated by the laws of the Caldari State.

It is not for the obsequious genuflection and aggrandizement of those who hold to the pretension that seniority is merit in its own right or that resting upon ones own laurels is a sufficient prosecution of duty to the Caldari State.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#94 - 2013-01-18 13:01:49 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Civire blood does not a Caldari make.


Citizenship and Heiian does. I've earned my stripes and you are most certainly not in any position to claim otherwise. Arrogant prick.


Your demeanor speaks for it's self. However, I am a little curious about what you think you've done in the few months since your graduation besides join a self declared enemy of the Caldari State that qualifies as 'earning your stripes.'


Feel free to avoid expanding your field of ignorance, I'm not going to hold it against you. I have never in my entire life been part of any entity styled as an "enemy of the State". Quite the contrary, I have always ensured I have guarantees stating no actions may go against the well-being of the State.

My entire life, I have risen on my merits and this has not changed since I graduated from SuVee sponsored capsuleer training. Unless of course, you feel that you stand above the State and can judge me more accurately than it can?

Thank you for increasing my bounty, however. It's a drop in the sea, but every drop counts.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Hamish Grayson
#95 - 2013-01-18 13:10:12 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
[quote=Hamish Grayson]
It is not for the obsequious genuflection and aggrandizement of those who hold to the pretension that seniority is merit in its own right or that resting upon ones own laurels is a sufficient prosecution of duty to the Caldari State.


After a certain point, a capsuleer realizes the universe if bigger than the Urpiken constellation and that there are more dangerous threats to our State than Seriphyn Inhonores's Federation Navy Comet. One understands then that there is a need leave his or Merlin behind and find other tools with which fight them.
Hamish Grayson
#96 - 2013-01-18 13:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
Jinari Otsito wrote:


Feel free to avoid expanding your field of ignorance, I'm not going to hold it against you. I have never in my entire life been part of any entity styled as an "enemy of the State".



Clearly you are not familiar with the history of the republic paramilitary group Re-Awakened Technologies or that wearing a bright red Mohawk as a way of making yourself stand out from the crowd is a way of broadcasting to the public at large that you rebel against the Caldari culture and by extension the Caldari State.
Wei Soikutsu
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-01-18 13:21:05 UTC
I am genuinely curious to hear what these threats to the State are, if they are so grave as to warrant the complete abandonment of the warzone.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#98 - 2013-01-18 13:23:36 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Jinari Otsito wrote:


Feel free to avoid expanding your field of ignorance, I'm not going to hold it against you. I have never in my entire life been part of any entity styled as an "enemy of the State".



Clearly you are not familiar with the history of the republic paramilitary group Re-Awakened Technologies or that wearing bright red Mohawk as a way of making yourself stand out from the crowd is a way of broadcasting to the public at large that you rebel against the Caldari culture and by extension the Caldari State.


Clearly you are not familiar with the current rules and regulations concerning such things within the industry corporation Re-Awakened Technologies (understandable, given how you're hiding out in the ass end of nowhere, how could you know?) or that wearing your hair or clothes in various ways have no impact whatsoever on the actions and views of the person in question.

My actions have shown my loyalties. Your actions have shown your lack of them.

Of course, the less you actually do for the State, the louder you have to warble about it I guess. It's okay, I'm sure you can show yourself loyal to the State some day.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#99 - 2013-01-18 13:26:31 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
[quote=Hamish Grayson]
It is not for the obsequious genuflection and aggrandizement of those who hold to the pretension that seniority is merit in its own right or that resting upon ones own laurels is a sufficient prosecution of duty to the Caldari State.


After a certain point, a capsuleer realizes the universe if bigger than the Urpiken constellation and that there are more dangerous threats to our State than Seriphyn Inhonores's Federation Navy Comet. One understands then that there is a need leave his or Merlin behind and find other tools with which fight them.


You seemed to be on the right track up until this. Typical chest puffing and I have come to expect nothing less as the standard around here. The observant will note Inhonores hasn't participated in the war in some time, and the experienced will laugh in your face at your claims of having some form of 'big picture epiphany' that renders every other aspect of politics, war and life in the cluster 'beneath you'.

Of course the universe is bigger than one campaign, base or engagement zone, but for a soldier on the front line, the universe can be as small as the path between his body and the barrel of a gun at certain moments (or in our case that thin membrane between our hulls and the void). So don't be coming on all high and mighty about some diffuse world view when your combat record shows you know exactly what I am talking about.

It'll take more than this one slip up for me to lose respect for a fellow soldier with a proven history, but talking down to individuals based on the scale of their operations is childish, and quite frankly should be beneath you; as a veteran of nullsec, Anoikis and many theaters besides, I value that the younger, sometimes naive pilots I train do their best with what they have. To have someone they should be looking up to talk like this about their hard work is a disgusting show of how out of touch you have become.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Hamish Grayson
#100 - 2013-01-18 13:27:34 UTC
Wei Soikutsu wrote:
I am genuinely curious to hear what these threats to the State are, if they are so grave as to warrant the complete abandonment of the warzone.



Are you familiar with the Heiian College or the Tea House? I'd rather take this discussion there.