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Sub Capital Carrier

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Artimes Haack
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-18 02:47:00 UTC
Was thinking of a Tier 3 Battleship specializing in drones.

Bonuses:

200-300% to drone hit points
50% bonus to drone speed
20% bonus to drone attack
+2 to drone control

Was thinking this in mind to give a solid drone carrier to sub capital class ships. Like a mini carrier ehp slightly better then a battleship slower warp time. Able to use Gates but cant use fighter bombers. Big bonus to drone ehp to allow a wider range of combat including incursions in high.
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-18 03:37:53 UTC
Theres already Faction Domis. While they aren't what you would like, they're good for every drone roll short of a carrier. The thing about drone boats is, they're the easiest ships to add ehp to and still retain dps. The other issue is, not all races are drone users.
Without the Curse, even amarr isn't really a drone race, so you would be shorting the other two. If its a one off, like the ore company doing it, in all likelyhood it will be either Cap ship pilots using it as sunday driving ship, or Gallente as those two groups are likely to have the skills maxed already for it.

I might also add that your concept ignores sentries shamefully. Sentries can actually out dps drones pretty well because drones have to fly from target to target, sentries just align to target and start firing. Drone boats can also be the best snipers, being able to fire from a location, while not being at that location to take damage. Enough drone upgrades and you can warp-bounce-around while your drones hammer things.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.

Artimes Haack
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-01-18 04:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Artimes Haack
It does not ignore sentries I believe sentries do gain bonus from drone damage bones as they are still considered a drone. Only fighter bombers do not gain bonus. Also in some cases once you deploy any kind of drone including sentries they can auto agro everything like in the Worlds Collide mission I made the mistake of deploying drones when i only had a single group. Sentry drones can be ate up fast with small mistakes like that and i mean to give a teir three drone boat to every faction regardless of specialty. Like I said a mini carrier for sub cap class. I love drones and I use the Rattlesnake for the most part. But I would not take it into an incursion situation.
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#4 - 2013-01-18 04:47:03 UTC
Search for posts about "Escort Carriers." It's an old idea and there's a lot of past discussion around it that may interest you.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2013-01-18 04:49:59 UTC
Artimes Haack wrote:
Was thinking of a Tier 3 Battleship specializing in drones.

Bonuses:

200-300% to drone hit points
50% bonus to drone speed
20% bonus to drone attack
+2 to drone control

Was thinking this in mind to give a solid drone carrier to sub capital class ships. Like a mini carrier ehp slightly better then a battleship slower warp time. Able to use Gates but cant use fighter bombers. Big bonus to drone ehp to allow a wider range of combat including incursions in high.


From the looks of things, they can't use fighters either.

So why are you redesigning the Dominix?

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Artimes Haack
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-01-18 05:11:18 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:

From the looks of things, they can't use fighters either.

So why are you redesigning the Dominix?


Not a redesign the dominix is just a drone primary with hybrid secondary. You have several issues there one your moding for two types of firepower which can decrease the overall effectiveness of your drones. Even the rattlesnake though thankfully is missiles do it doesnt need tracking bonus for its secondary damage. A solid drone boat would be a nice idea to focus on drones giving them a larger hp bonus would allow drones to take on more agro. Dominix only gives a 50% hp bonus great in pvp but if your away from your sentries and the agro shifts more then likely they will die before you can retrieve them.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-01-18 09:29:11 UTC
Artimes Haack wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:

From the looks of things, they can't use fighters either.

So why are you redesigning the Dominix?


Not a redesign the dominix is just a drone primary with hybrid secondary. You have several issues there one your moding for two types of firepower which can decrease the overall effectiveness of your drones. Even the rattlesnake though thankfully is missiles do it doesnt need tracking bonus for its secondary damage. A solid drone boat would be a nice idea to focus on drones giving them a larger hp bonus would allow drones to take on more agro. Dominix only gives a 50% hp bonus great in pvp but if your away from your sentries and the agro shifts more then likely they will die before you can retrieve them.



That's kind of the point of sentries.



Is this basically just a bigger, overpowered ishtar?
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#8 - 2013-01-18 11:29:48 UTC
It could be done, but it sounds like an op waste of time

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Gah'Matar
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#9 - 2013-01-18 20:25:05 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
[quote=Artimes Haack][quote=Asuka Solo]Is this basically just a bigger, overpowered ishtar?


This, carebear wants uber pwn-drone-boat.