Wormholes

Yep, what you're looking at is eminently do-able ... but a nontrivial undertaking to do well or to do safely.

Ship choice is entirely up to you, and what you're wanting to do on that particular occasion. You *can* take an orca into w-space to provide a mobile homebase platform but, given your experience base, I'd advise against it.

When I get tired of null I often hop out into w-space and play along the lines you're suggesting. I usually have an orca following along but generally keep him in the hisec systems that I access w-space from, occasionally jumping him through a chain of w-systems to a far-away next hisec system. Sometimes I swap that pilot to an uber booster loki or tengu and bring him in to assist the wormhole work.
I usually also have a number of players scanning including my uber-scanner alt ... you can never have too many scanners if you're playing in w-space.
After that I have my two main DPS toons flying whatever nasties take my fancy. I virtually never go with T3s but accept that they're damn good for this. I usually choose either two stealth bombers or one bomber plus a falcon.

This morning, for example, I was off tooling around in w-space when my scout saw an orca on DS. Watched him for a while and then worked out he was WH closing. With myself and another toon, respectively, in a falcon and manticore we waited for his final jump (no exit option via the WH), tackled him and slowly killed him (http://www.polaris-rising.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18822). The 'fight' had a little spice when his EC drones, set to aggro, jammed out my falcon but was pretty much a matter of time in the absence of reinforcements ... and quite a long time given his tank and our collective DPS.

On other occasions I've had a pair of bombers tackle and kill a sleeper site raven or drake, or have just had to make myself happy chasing salvagers and haulers.

I'm a failtard PvPer so am happy to advise that if I can achieve this pretty well anyone can, with a little patience and effort.

Ninja mining in w-systems is do-able, but do not expect to live very long. Although they will, in theory, need probes to find you (sigs not anoms) most denizens with half a brain will have already obtained bookmarks for all those sites and so ill not have to actually probe you out.

There are untaken w-systems but if you want to take up longterm residence and 'own' a w-system I'd recommend buying via the sales forum.

Doing this you will usually hop into C1 or C2 systems from hisec, and occasionally a C3. From there, though, depending on how the dice roll you can go as deep as you like, or just pop back out to empire.

I'd recommend you start by trying WH diving from high sec. So scan HS systems until you find a C1-C3 wormhole. If you're after PVE look for an inactive WH. Most of the low end C1-C3s will have residents, but they won't necessarily be active. High sec diving has the advantage of being low commitment since you can quickly get out. If you get more serious you can look at setting up a POS. You don't really want to take an orca into a WH unless you have somewhere safe to park it.

For running sites you can't really go wrong with a passive shield tank drake. When you have multiple chars keeping one as a dedicated cloaky scanner is highly recommended. If you're running sites, you can leave the scout sitting on a WH so you can see trouble coming.

This is hardly unlikely, you didn't had the ships to bump him off the wh, it was enough to just jump back the wh and collapse it behind him if he was on the last jump and you couldn't do anything to it...

What did you do, follow him into an unstable wh? If so, that hardly qualifies you to give advices.

By the way, just checked to be sure, kill is not API verified.

GL and may you submit to my blasters..

[On topic] Use T3's and an Orca, and yes it's doable, start with C3's and you might be able to do C4's, but you should search for those with good env. effects like +dmg or +shield if your a shield tank. WH effects DO NOT AFFECT SLEEPERS.

Thanks for the advice everyone



You're probably right - I think I'll heed Matuks advice and start with diving from highsec.




that's an interesting bit of information. I was under the impression that entering a sleeper site with an SB would result in my quick death due to the sleepers switching targets. Apparently I was wrong (?). So e.g. putting one character in a cov ops frig or cloaky probing T3 and using the low SP char in something like an Incursus for tackle and another character in an SB for additional DPS would work for killing stuff inside sites without getting instapopped by sleepers?



I wasn't planning to take one myself - just asking if every wormhole can be expected to be inhabited by a horde of locals trying to hunt me down or if the majority is rather quiet.




Well - three Drakes wouldn't work as toon 3 doesn't have missile skills, but I get the idea - cheap and straightforward. I'm not too fond of the Drake though (I know it sounds weird, but it just lacks style imho), but I'll think about two Nighthawks once CS have been buffed (isk isn't much of an issue).



I'm not really looking at setting up a POS - my plan was more or less something like a caravan that may or may not return - have some fun and probably get killed in the process.

Considering parking the Orca: I planned to use it with two armored warfare links and a cloak, so I can just warp to a safe and cloak up if any probes that aren't mine appear on Scan. Should work, no (?). I considered entries and exits the more dangerous chokepoints.

Oooops, sorry. i didn't make myself entirely clear. In that setup I wait until the last sleeper BS falls. SB will be pretty well instapopped once a fat red cross takes a liking to it in w-space.

The risk here is always that the w-holer is savvy enough to be aligned out towards the end, but a surprising portion of them are not.

Bomber = no uncloak target lock delay so you can get a pretty fast lock and point, especially if he's a BS.




Absolutely not, but most half-decent w-systems will be occupied ... altho their levels of activity will vary greatly.

Get a pos and set up shop in a c3.
Use RR Sentry Dominixon characters 1 & 2.
Train char 3 to probe and fly a cov ops.