Ships & Modules

Respectfully respectfully imo imo respectfully, lvl 5's are irrelevant, they are too far removed from other missions for the fits you use in them to bear any resemblance to normal mission fits, so don't try and use them to lengthen your e-peen in this conversation IMO. Respectfully.

IMO, since you've only been playing since 2010, I can't expect you to know that sometimes a damage control can reenforce a shield tank quite effectively, and when shield tanking its often better to use a damage control in the lows and a cap recharger in the mids then an invuln in the mids and a cap power relay or flux coil in the lows.

IMO IMO IMO respectfully.

You're a cranky one aren't you, not one for polite constructive criticism or another persons perspective I see. Oh where to begin.

Firstly, if you would care to check my character info (its not very hard to do) you would see that this particular account (which is my main PVP/mission runner account ) is Feb 2008, not 2010. Also a quick check of killboards would confirm this date. Not sure you are one for giving advice seeing as you cant even figure this little simple piece of info out.

Two, seeing as you are ranked 256,000 on battleclinic and I'm ranked 11,000 I think I understand pretty well what a damage control does or does not do.

Three, without checking the stats im pretty sure that a cap power relay in the low is actually counter productive to an active shield tank due to penalty of 10% shield boost.

Four, Epeen, eh no. That fact that I do 5's solo points out that I've had to grind my way up through the lower levels so I should therefore understand a little about missions fits.


Now that's cleared up, lets get back to the point at hand.

The reason I disagree with you on the damage control is that a damage control provides a bonus to shield, armour and hull. IMO and its just my opinion hence the IMO, a mission ship should be either shield tanked or armour tanked, not both. Having a damage control is providing 3 types of tanking. I feel that this low slot can be better served with a dedicated shield mod, armour mod, capacitor mod or a dps mod.

Spart o/

I missed the "see more corp history" button on the website, my bad. On the other hand, Since you think this is an e-peen competition, I still pre-date you by 6 months



Only scrubs who've never flown in a decent corp with its own killboards use or care about battleclinic. By submitting data there, you tell me everything I want to know about you. On the other hand, you can only discover what my occasional losses tell about me, which is not much.

My corp history is far too long, but at least contains some decent corps. Your recent history shows one corp reforming as another, which then merged into a third. Got our arses kicked in a few consecutive wars, did we?


That's exactly what I said. Damage control + cap recharger better then invul + cap power relay. I know reading and thinking aren't your strong points, but do at least make an effort to keep up, ok?


I know at least one guy who has a 10 year old daughter who runs missions in eve, there was a minor forum kerfuffle over it a few months ago. Don't imply that running missions requires some kind of detailed knowledge of the game. You are proof positive that morons can do it by following cookie cutter advice of battleclinic.



I've bolded the worst of your flawed logic. My god man, do you actually have anything between your ears? If a DC only reenforced armor and hull, then you'd have a point about using it on a shield tank. But it doesn't, it reenforces your shields as well. Which means that its fine on either kind of tank, and provided there aren't better balances of modules for specific setups available.

Your feelings would be wrong on many setups. Not all, but many, and since this is proof by contradiction, I can certainly find at least one scenario where A DC would be better then a cap power relay/flux coil or (you're doing it wrong) a shield power relay/shield flux coil, and if I can find one scenario where it doesn't hold, your blanket statement that DC's are always useless is provably incorrect.

Not that I expect you to understand anything about propositional logic.

And that's it, I'm out. I'm no longer helping the OP with these posts, and I'm definitely not interested in helping you.

This original post was a question in relation to tanking a thorax for level 2 missions. I gave my opinion on a damage control unit II not being needed (which seems to have set you off). What I was implying with this statement was that based on my experience missioning a mission ship can be more than sufficiently tanked to run any level mission without the need for damage control unit II and that if you are depending on it to save you in a mission i.e. warping out in structure then you aren’t running the mission as efficiently as is possible.



Now, instead of continuing to hijack this thread ill close by saying this.

Ok, I get it, you have a hard on for a damage control unit II. For some reason me saying not to use a damage control unit II on a mission ship has sent you off the emo deep end. That’s fine, I get it, you aren’t getting enough hugs in RL, you have a tough time in school and online forums are the only place that you can safely emo vent without getting ganked by your fellow man. I just hope for your sake that you aren’t over 18 because if this is how you behave and respond emotionally to people when they disagree with you as an adult, then you are in for a tough long life.

If you want to continue this exchange any further, feel free to PM or convo me in game instead of hijacking this thread any further.

Spart o/