Wormholes

Two Step has started this thred:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625&find=unread

Its your duty as fellow Wormhole Dwellers To get on board with our CSM member, to try and fix this!

Its funny that a few months ago we had a threadnaught in this very forum about the evils of proposed POS changes. Everything was brought up, discussed, digested, re-digested and discussed some more. I think the overwhelming opinion was that the proposed POS changes would seriously and somewhat adversely impact the predatory nature of w-space. Now that we learn that CCP is going to direct their attention towards other elements of the game, we want to start another threadnaught?

No, thank you. I am very happy to hear that CCP is not interested in change the POS system, the current implementation of Force Fields and other mechanics is just fine. Yes, there is a certain level of hassle, inconsistencies and bugs associated with the POS implementation, but an entire re-work is not needed. Instead of backing Two Step on this overhaul, maybe we should pressure CCP into fixing existing issues and leaving the POS system as is? That way we get to fit our subsystems in w-space, have our Force Fields and our intel while letting the Devs work on some other promising features.

Quoted for Emphasis.

I don't think many of the multiple POS threads protested against a change to the POS system only debated on what should and shouldn't be changed in the new system. The current system is something we have to put up with, work around and grin and bear.

Personally im most annoyed with being told sorry your not important enough for us to change a broken system, there excuse for not making a change is just wrong. I think its just basically CCP saying mehh they have put up with it for years so they will carry on putting up with it why should we spend money improving things.

A bit of a slap in the face and a **** you very much from CCP.

Roles, security, most of the stuff is fine. All we really need is the ability to swap subsystems and the ability to repackage items.

I think that is just Pride talking. I too would like to be considered important, to the point where CCP would listen to our every whim. However, the reality is that if you look at the POS system objectively you will see that it is being used quite effectively. That people who use it know how to work around the kinks and limitations, then you do have to ask yourself, do we want spend time making changes that will have a very limited (low visibility) impact or should CCP make a few new ships and make a massive impact?


In the end saying that CCP has not touched POS mechanics is also false, they made changes that allow us to online / offline CHAs and SMAs in mere seconds, FF Passwords are awesome these days and we can rename modules. So some work is being down, albeit at a very slow pace.

I do see your point and I mostly agree. But I also think that we should at least have an option to implement some simpler way to secure ships... personalized SMA tabs, for example (noone wants docking). We all know that ship security is massive hurdle for newer and smaller WH corporations. Making it easier for them to recruit and not have all their stuff stolen every other month would greatly help populate w-space and bring more targets to shoot at. As it is now they never get to the stage where evictions and storing dreads would be any concern for them.

Thanks for heads up, that is very good to read and totally satisfying.

Guess this is what happens when 99% of players just skim the Minutes, bit ashamed now for jumping the bandwagon.

I still do want to make the starbases special.

The is nothing I've seen that said the POS changes will address security. That is a corp roles and security issue, which would likely need to be addressed separately, cause they suck.

A POS update would be nice, but I agree roles are the problem here, maybe not necessarily the pos itself.