My EVE

I want my POS.

I want my POS.

I want my POS.


Also, support Two Step's thread about this: Support the POS, we are more than you think, CCP.

Go live in a wormhole for a week and tell us how you feel about sharing a hangar with the rest of your corp.

I have never said they should not implement modular POS or different hangars for members. I am simply stating it should not be dockable. I am sure it's possible to code similar fitting option and similar hangar option to station, but with ship actually staying outside.

Or are you actually proposing same unlimited storage etc. in POSes as in stations? That's nonsense.

I find it hilariously hypocritical that the theme of these minutes is making the lives of "instigators" and "enablers" easier, and then they go on to say nobody cares about a POS revamp.

CCP, do you think all of the games instigators live in high sec and never touch POS's? Oh wait, even highsec bears have indy POS's. And what do you think the enablers deal with every single ******* day? Oh yeah, POS's. Hell, you even have an entire subset of players living in the ~2500 wormhole systems you created in Apocrypha, which you're now realizing was one of the best expansions you've ever made. I guess none of them care about POS's?

With all due respect Unifex, pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes.

Nothing gets out of "The Door"...

(Which in itself was one of the primary complaints about Incarna).

Any change like the Modular POS system is a Masive undertaking, but think about it differently. Each change like this is a series of small steps. Let's see what complete and self contained changes we can make which add a little here and there but ultimately working towards the goal. I don't want the POS system to totaly change overnight after 18 months of development time, I want to see it start small, grow and change over time and work it's way alongside the other game changes which would give us unexpected emergence along the way whilst also showing the playerbase where CCP are going with things and that development is actually happening.

Start small, make bigger over time. POS development needs to be done as part of an overall larger scale development operation. Here are my key points that need coverering off for development and I look at it as a framework....

1. What do the players want? What do CCP want? (i.e. total revamp of Sov, WiS, FP exploration, reworked industry, ring mining, Modular Pos's, ship balance, ship skins etc...)

2. What are the timescales we have to work with for development cycles? (Quick patch, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 3Y, 5Y, 10Y.)
3. Categorise the changes wanted into these timescales. (i.e. ship skin is 1 month, WiS 1yr+ etc..)
4. Break down all the longer term goals into short chunks that will fit into each of the development cycle timeslots. (i.e. full WiS would take a long while, but making a few new rooms (for industry interface for an example or a revamped hangar view could be 3 months. all the bells and whistles for a fully Modular POS system would be 18 Months+, but the basic "tower" plus docking, hangar and one industrial function would be 6 months...)
5. Determine how many of these small incremental changes can be made side-by-side.

6. (*Very important*) When developing, see how many of the little changes can interact with each other and what emergent gameplay can come from this. (i.e. Modular POS could start off with a small Mobile platform that is dockable at. This could have the additional rooms designed as part of WiS. This could also have limited industrial functionality, i.e. as a Ring mining facility or as a small hidden pirate base tucked away behind enemy lines where you can store ships, re-equip and re-arm...)

With this, the various threads of development are pulled together to give a series of wide ranging but incremental changes that work together, driving the development towards what the devs and Players want but also picking up on emergent gameplay along the way.

Also, as any feature is developed (or requested) on all sides we need to always be thinking "How will this impact PvP, industry, PvE, SoV, FW, mining......"

The more interractions between the changes and the Game areas the better...

SM>

Why the heck would it take so long? Much, much smaller companies release entire games in 2-3 times that. Why would it take a year to implement this kind of stuff for a company of 400 people? (even if not all of them are working on EVE).

Believe it when I see it.

Too much time and effort/resources being redirected to DUST... which I have no intention of playing, even if someone *gave* me a PS3.

Until then...

Stay Calm and Carry On.

Pretty much. A working modular POS system could stand a chance to become the pride and joy of the game, rather than the constant source of “fix it!”-threadnoughts that they have been for the last decade.

Doesn't benefit enough people.

Yeah because all of the players from nullsec and wormhole space combined isn't a lot at all

sigh