Player Features and Ideas Discussion

My Rorqual's 3 remote shield reps (which repair about 4500 hp every 5 seconds), large drone bay (pumping out about 500 to 600 DPS), and massive wall of EHP (about 800k to 1 million) disagree with you.

An NPC corp character compressing ore for someone completely immune to risk is an abuse in my opinion. And there have been a massive number of instances of people abusing orcas in the past to the point where CCP had to make changes to how their hangers work.

Moreover why should a combat ship not be allowed and an industrial ship be allowed? Last time I checked sub-capital combat ships are allowed in the same spaces as industrial ships, if they weren't nobody would have a hulk on their killboard.

You can get certain battleships that high if you really wanted to (Or relitively close around 500,000 - 600,000 which is still carrier sized, not to mention the proteus cruiser).

But they are still in Highsec. Compared to those the rorq would just be another addition to the lot.

Not to mention the RORQ takes more skills then a damn Dreadnaught to fly (And most are industrial so it would be REALLY inconvienient and well.. ********/stupid... for a combat player to bother training for one when there are better options in highsec). So yea I dont see many people abusing it. because you can get into one of the BS's which are infinitely better for combat in a quarter of the time it would take you to get into a rorq, not to mention they would be 3x Cheaper to buy and replace.

The only people (For the Most part) that would really train and fly one would be industrial characters.

Except you need to gimp such ships in almost all other aspects to get that kind of EHP out of them. And such ships usually do not have a large massive local tank complimenting the EHP either.

You're also seem to be forgetting about the remote repair bonuses the Rorqual has... and how they can be used in conjunction with capital energy transfer arrays to create almost infinite tanks with other Rorquals.


So does a carrier. Maybe we should let them into high-sec as well. It's not like anyone will use them for anything other than hauling ships.

/sarcasm


Hello. Apparently I'm stupid, trained one of my alts to use a Rorqual, and fit it for combat and logistical support. Despite my apparent lapse in judgement, it does its job very nicely (hauling around, setting up and defending POSs) and can swat away most sub-capitals that try to engage it.

If something gives enough of an advantage for a certain situation... people will use it for such. Even if it's not clearly designed to perform that role. Especially so if there is an absence of anything else that is as good... skill points be damned.


What battleship can provide remote repairs at the rate I provided above and soak up punishment just as easily while still being able to perform an offensive role?

That's why people would use it. I would LOVE to use my Rorq to RR a friendly on station against a hostile force. Inexperienced players would be powerless to take on people like me (to a degree they can't come close to matching).
Plus... I would have the added bonus of not worrying about random neutral players and their forces ruining my fun (as I would have to in low-sec).

1. Um.... You can't rep stations in highsec...

2. You'd be surprised how experienced the highsec players are, many of us have lived in 0.0 and lowsec for years, we just basically "retired" to highsec.

3. If you meant POS by station, the only highsec pos's are Industrial or Research, and very few are ever attacked, it isn't like 0.0 where every POS you see that isn't yours you try to kill.

4. The BS's can't provide "Capital" remote reps this is true, Also 600 DPS is less then a battle cruiser (And most battle cruisers can easily tank this with no help), So.. Yea not a huge threat. And your remote reps would be much use if you have no capacity and people use Pirate ships like the Bahl for PvP A LOT more in highsec then 0.0, IN addition you'd be suprised how many pvpers in highsec fit their utility highslots with Neuts.

So.. your remote reps might not be repping anything and you might die a lot faster then you think.

But hey, If you have 6 Billion isk to blow on a combat Rorq, more power to you.

Rorq is easy to kill anywhere, 0.0 or highsec. Even loaded with Neuts an experienced PvPer in a BC can kill one (Although it may take awhile).

On mining, Who cares if it compreses Ore, you should go to highsec ,people mine for days on end non stop in NPC corps, the ability to compress ore wont even remotely effect this as most systems have stations. (I mean really the only use it would have like that is at a pos in a stationless highsec system otherwise people simply dock and unload.)

Its not like 0.0 where you can't mine for more then 10 minuets at a time without worrying about dieing, people AFK for 12-18 hours on end non stop, A rorq wont decrease or increase this,

You should visit highsec more often.

Also, you should really watch who you call a carebear. Just because someone likes to mine and do industry does not also mean they don't like to blow people up as well. Some of us "Carebears", are vets in wars that took place before you even started playing Eve.

Sorry but no. You said: "I am not Opposed to all caps being allowed back in high sec with the exception of Titans. Eve used to be like this, Then people started Abusing it. So CCP Restricted capitals to 0.0 and Lowsec."

When I called you on it, you then said: "Look it up Titans used to sit on stations and Doomsday Noobs 9Doomsdays used to be AOE. Just ask around instead of believing your assumptions are automatically correct. Chribba does not have several dreads in Highsec for no reason."

So here you are, specifically not wanting Titans back in High sec, because people will abuse them. To prove your point, you claim they sat on stations and used their AOE to kill noobs. What about the phrase Titans were never allowed in High Sec, do you not understand?

I posted it because.
A. Titans and Supers were not allowed in High sec, when they happened to appear through a glitch or GM abuse, they were quickly removed. (No Titans sat on stations AOEing noobs in high sec.)

B. Also because within the same paragraph, you're OK with all Capitals with the exception of Titans being back in high sec. Then point out people abused them. Showing that it should actually, never ever be allowed to happen. Ever.

Way to go with that logic bomb and you call me a troll.

Please, never stop posting.

Well since i was killed by a titan AOE in Hentogaira, I can say yea, they were in highsec, for a time. Not long, but for a time.How the damn thing got there I honestly don't know. But I know it wasn't the only one.

I call bull and I see you avoided the rest of that post. How unusual.

Never stop posting.

I didn't reply to B. Because it's irellevant asking me to point out people that suicided newbs 6-7 years ago is like asking me to recall what I did on a tuesday in march 7 years ago. I mean really. If you want proof stop being lazy and go look it up yourself.