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Montykoro Daymaku
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-15 03:26:07 UTC
Lol passwords like "Ñandu" or "Cigüeña" are bulletproof, how many bruteforce atacks uses the spanish or latino american words?

Now for tinfoil lvl 2, use "Ñ4ndü&C1gÜeñ4"

Jitalt Pirkibo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-01-15 08:24:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jitalt Pirkibo
Montykoro Daymaku wrote:
Lol passwords like "Ñandu" or "Cigüeña" are bulletproof, how many bruteforce atacks uses the spanish or latino american words?

Every single one. Else they wouldn't be brute force.

Brute force password cracking means trying every single character there is in every possible combination.
Ainur Sefarin
Akritai
#43 - 2013-01-15 14:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ainur Sefarin
OK, brace yourselves -- no password is safe any more, cracking at 350 BILLION hashes/sec

http://hackaday.com/2012/12/06/25-gpus-brute-force-348-billion-hashes-per-second-to-crack-your-passwords/

Also something that surprized me: battlenet is using case INSESITIVE passwords (user-friendliness over little gain in entropy).
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#44 - 2013-01-15 15:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Ainur Sefarin wrote:
OK, brace yourselves -- no password is safe any more, cracking at 350 BILLION hashes/sec

http://hackaday.com/2012/12/06/25-gpus-brute-force-348-billion-hashes-per-second-to-crack-your-passwords/

Also something that surprized me: battlenet is using case INSESITIVE passwords (user-friendliness over little gain in entropy).


Only important when they can get the password hashs and check them offline.

If they only have access over the net, with regular logins, then it doesn't work.

Oh, and with a 22 character, alpha numeric case sensitive password, you're talking about 128 bits of entropy. which is 3.40 × 10^38 possible options.

which, at 3.48 x 10^11 per second, ia about 1 x 10^29 seconds. or 3 x 10^21 years.

Now, sure, using dictionary words isn't as good entropy wise.

Even with only 64 bits of entropy, we're talking 86 years or so.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-01-17 03:53:50 UTC
Din'stalor Alaric wrote:
So i create another alt and realise the new passwords have to have a number with them.
Then i realise my older toons are the old style, just plain old letters :)

So i ask, who is old school and who is new school?


You also have to have at least 1 capital letter now too.

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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#46 - 2013-01-17 05:10:07 UTC
If you type your password on the forums it will hash it out, my password is *********. See it won't let you use it here.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

fugazii
Slippery Penguin
#47 - 2013-01-17 07:44:45 UTC
Din'stalor Alaric wrote:
So i create another alt and realise the new passwords have to have a number with them.
Then i realise my older toons are the old style, just plain old letters :)

So i ask, who is old school and who is new school?


CCP reset all of EVEs passwords many years ago due to mass hacks. This was before the end of letter only passwords. So who has the CCP auto reset password still?


So oldschool your oldschool is my newschool. Or something to that effect.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-17 07:48:08 UTC
Din'stalor Alaric wrote:
So i ask, who is old school and who is new school?


you are old school if your password contains iddqd

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-01-17 08:08:56 UTC
I'm so new school I got numbers in my name,

Top that.
Obax Bannon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-01-17 10:15:32 UTC
Shenra Twrin wrote:
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Isn't this 'say if your passwords aren't alphanumeric so you can be an easier target for password-cracking bots'?


I´m behind 24 letters, come at me bro.


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Is that it ?
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