Crime & Punishment

ok.. the corp my awox miner infiltrated, that seemed way too nice to awox, are annoying as hell
Too nice.

so.
I have no roles, but have gained the trust of the CEO enough to have him AFK orca boost me, this seems like the only 'target'

alt has zero training in PVP ships.
I need advice on how to make a fast training/not fancy "Orca Killer"
i plan on swooping in with main in a Basi to RR the **** out of whatever ship my awox alt ends up in.

I also need advice on what happens if i get corp kicked mid kill on orca, does concord come pwn me?

I want this orca dead, and the loot to be mine if any.

so: easy train Orca killing ship fit needed, and will i be in concord **** if i get booted. also is Main in trouble for RRing from 75KM away?

thanks Agent. RR is not in corp. That a deal breaker?
How fast will an Orca go down to a Catalyst?

That is a matter of how the ship is tanked and how much DPS your catalyst has.

A starting catalyst (with about 3 hours? or so of training in it) can do just over 230 dps.

A fully trained up tech 2 catalyst can do over 600 dps.

An Orca can have over 250k EHP with a tank of over 130.

So, if you have a base level catalyst with ~230 dps and you're up against a well tanked orca you are looking at:

230 (incoming DPS) - 130 (tank) = 100 DPS.

250,000 / 100 = 2500 seconds = ~42 minutes.

You're looking at spending around 42 minutes killing a well tanked orca with a very basic catalyst.

With the tech 2 catalyst you're looking at around 8 minutes to kill the orca.

Chances are his orca doesn't have 250,000 EHP with a 130 tank which is why it is important to know what you are going up against.

lol corp is too nice to you its a shame.

Yea I'm not good at this, but I suggest taking as much dps as possible regardless of cost. Just remember to fit TWO points and drones. With about 500 dps (do able in a pimped out battle cruiser), an untanked Orca (80,000 or so EHP) goes down in under 3 minutes.

I've personally witnessed an awox happen before my eyes. It took 10 minutes for the Orca to die and then several minutes for all the scrammed Hulks. I watched it because I was in a Hulk in fleet with the awoxed corp but not a member. That was one heck of an experience.

They couldn't do anything the whole 10 minutes it went on.

The out of corp reps will not incur any kind of flag under normal circumstances. There is a bug where the reps very occasionally gain a suspect flag, so be aware that it may happen, but in the vast majority of circumstances the reps cannot be legally shot.

I use destroyers, usually catalysts, but even a coercer will work. I recently did one with a 150dps thrasher with incredibly low skills. That was the safari that Wescro witnessed, in fact. It took about 6 minutes or so to kill the Orca. It would have taken nearly twice as long if the Orca had a damage control.

Regarding the dude who suggested you hire mercs to get the Orca down to 50%: not required in any way, shape, or form. Don't listen to him, he has no idea what he's talking about.

I disagree. I don't think there's a need for that. If you've got reps, go hard. There's no need to be hesitant.

I've done it with a HAM Drake. It works fine. Good luck and god speed. Convo me if you need any advice or support.

HAM Drake works just fine, if you want to invest the time into training that on your infiltration alt. Plenty of midslots for extra tackle gear to awox multiple targets at once. Shield resist bonus to improve your remoterep effectiveness (you could possibly use your utility high to capchain with your basi). Very poor lock-time for catching pods, but it won't matter if he's AFK.


I think if your corp is currently involved in a wardec, then out-of-corp reps will result in a Suspect flag?

Another option is to open a level 4 mission with a dangerous first room in the system, ask for free fleet movement, and when the Orca owner is AFK, make yourself wing leader, and wing warp the Orca into the first room.

In fact, you can wing warp the entire mining fleet into the first room.

Have fun!