EVE General Discussion

I am posting today is because I am a bit disappointed with players sometimes being too vocal in the game forcing CCP making some U-turns from making the game better.

Some casual gamers like me do like the idea of having 3D characters moving about, do more like fighting inside ships, stations or planets because it adds a new dimension to the game other than a spinning ship. Sadly, this is not going to happen.

Also as a casual gamer, I am also looking forward to ideas of exchange stores where I could actually buy stuff directly from CCP to enrich and allow me to level myself to other gamers who can afford to spend more time playing the game. For me, the lack of time causes me to have severe difficulty in developing my characters forward. Micro transactions is a good idea that addresses this issue to casual gamers like me. I don't mind working hard in real life and making money so that I can spend a bit to level up in game. Sadly, the reverse is unacceptable and also irresponsible. Now, that is also not going to happen and it puts a huge obstacle for gamers like me. We have to pick to either succeed in real life or in Eve life.

These are all good ideas and sadly, they are taken away. It is issues like dealing with the vocal minority or bitter vets sometimes is killing the game. I don't blame them because players especially old players are being too rigid or conservative and cannot accept changes whether it may be good or bad. It is human nature because they are used to that something. If Eve started with 3D characters and micro-transactions, we will not have such conversation today as it is accepted from day one.

I also don't think CCP has done anything wrong in making decisions to make the game better but sadly the playerbase is as rigid as ever and changes are never accepted or welcome whether they are good or bad. So I cannot accept any apologies from CCP especially from the CEO that I think has done a good job and nothing wrong. Maybe the micro transactions proposal could have been presented in a better way. All I can say is hopefully, whatever decision CCP is going to take from now on is going to be the right one and keep up the good work. I know where my responsibilities lie in real life.

I do hope CCP can reconsider some of the awaited features that can add value to the game for some of us who are interested in them but sometimes crippled because the lack of time but still want to enjoy the game. Features like having proper 3D characters moving abouts and do more are something that I have been waiting for a long time and the ability to directly buy items and skill points from CCP to level up my characters was something that I look forward to. I like to deal directly with the supplier and buying from CCP allows me to maximise my real life time in working and making money and still enjoy the game. Honestly speaking, it is definitely better than spending more time trying to make it in game and suffer in real life. I know there are many who are still interested in micro transactions and wanting to do more with 3D characters but it seems that the development of such is to end and it is a shame to see good work go to waste. If paying a little more subscription will put more development into those areas, I really don't mind paying a bit more fee since it supports the game.

By the way, very good work on the forums and the all in one game and forum integration. I haven't had the time to congratulate the developers on that one. Hopefully, it can only get better.

They made the U-Turn because Carbon is a flaming pile of **** that can't be fixed Soon (tm)

Don't delude yourself in thinking that they care what forum posters say.

to op erm no plz go away

spend the time and energy we all had to spend to earn that isk and the days spent training them skills to l5
if u need isk that bad without working for it go buy a gtc and convert it to plex then sell it

I was once close friends with a guy who made a lot of money for his age, and considered himself to be 'very busy.'

He liked to play Civilisation most evenings... He'd build hundreds and hundreds of absolutely terrible units, as fast as he could, and then wait for them to become obsolete; so that the AI stopped building them, and moved on to better things. At that point he'd open up a console window, change all their terrible stats to max, and spend the rest of the game rampaging across the world with no chance of ever losing a single unit.

He was very busy you see, and wanted it to be fun...

You kinda remind me of him.

You're either a troll or ******* stupid.

I play EVE because it's a subscription model and everyone is on a level playing field. You can take your micro-transactions and shove them up your ass to rot.

Based on that op I'm going with both.

OP must be trolling.

Here everybody earns SP at the same rate, wether they are casual players or not. That's one of the reasons why i signed up with EVE, right because here you are never outranked by every last brat farming experience10 hours a day. EVE skilling system is one of the best features it haves and NO, i don't buy that being a casual means you should be able to get SP faster. NO-NO, period.

You obviously don't want to play a sandbox game and want to change EvE so it fits your preferences. Here is the clue, many of us plays EvE BECAUSE IT IS A SANDBOX GAME. Why do you want to take that away from us?

It might. Once they figure out what to do with it and figure out how to do it.
They're doing a u-turn because they lost 30k subscriptions in one fell swoop.

Exactly.

CCP started enthusatically with their CARBON engine only to find out that .. it's a monster of an engine and however pretty (excluding some shader effects); even rendering just one single character walking around in a shoebox already ate more resources than your average fast paced 3D shooter game with 40 people running around in it.

So I guess investors became impatient and raised their eyebrows on the validity of the WiS path, which also would serve as the WoD engine. Also with the current economical climate they rather don't take risks - but the carbon engine seemed to be a neverending story to fine tune and work proper, without killing your PC.

In the meantime the CSM/forum posters started to grumble over the time and human resources WiS was going to consume the coming months/years. Now CCP had the perfect excuse to postpone WiS without losing face (leaving the sinking ship), fire a large chunk of their WoD development team, shelve WoD and "re-allocate resources on FiS since the faithful EVE playerbase wants it and CCP found they mistakingly lost their way but have seen the light again".
It's all too convenient to be true and genuine imho .. but that's perhaps my suspiscion.