Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The most common reason people do not explore outside of high-security space is the price and risk posed by attribute implants. Most people have 60 to 100m in their head at any given time. This makes the “pipe dream” of flying a 8m isk Rifter into the unknown impractical. I sit in station for weeks at a time in my +5 implants as it’s not worth the risk to undock… CCP has effectively created a system that rewards players for not playing their game. When people stop playing EVE and start playing skill training online, corporations crumble, alliances soon after, and people leave the game.

I can think of dozens of times when folks in Huzzah Federation needed help on a project, but the majorities of our players were in hi-sec grinding 2700sp/hour and could not participate. Players including myself eventually left the null-security organizations as the value of SP per hour exceeded the value of working with other players.

EVE veterans reach a point where it is more beneficial to sit AFK in Jita 4-4. 23/7 training 2700sp/hr. than it is to interact with fellow pilots.

Remove SP implants and there will be no reason to stay docked for months at a time, CCP should incentivize undocking and exploring, it is in the best interest of EVE as a community.

Seems the smart thing to do would be to keep a clone with cheaper implant in a station near by.

You can have, what, 5 clones?

Reducing the rate at which people can learn new skills to try different parts of the game makes for bad gameplay, lower subscriptions and poor customer relations.

CCPs "You should specialise" only works if you know what you want to specialise in.

It's Tom Gerard. Basically everything he ever says can be dismissed as trolling.

You can buy SP with ISK, there's a whole forum section dedicated to it.

Not to mention that if it's not an ISK issue, you can just keep a couple of spare sets of +5's in your medical clone station, ready to pop in as soon as you get podded. It is very much an ISK issue, as everything in this game boils down to ISK, or to fun, or some combination of the two.

In this case, what you have is some people who dont want to risk their fancy implants because of the cost. This is fine, as they have just made a calculation as to what is best for them, as a player.

I fly around with an inexpensive pod because I derive my enjoyment from other aspects of the game, and FAST AS POSSIBLE SP gain is not that. Hell, fast as possible ISK gain is not that.

Tom Gerard is the archetypal troll.

He's a lot cleverer and more subtle than people give him credit for. His OPs are always worth reading. They're like the Zen koans of EVE.

He's the best at what he does...

OP does kind of have a point.. losing a half billion implants is painful, and slowing down already slow skill training can be annoying. I wouldn't really say remove them, I mean, they are a reward to work towards, but you really can't say that they don't discourage risk a bit more. In fact, its pretty impossible to realistically state that they don't. Some people will always find a reason to avoid risk, yeah, but its human nature to be less willing to take risks as the consequences become greater. Kind of a tough subject to think about.