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Where is the eve App CCP?

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Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#1 - 2013-01-16 13:22:26 UTC
I find it soooo strange that CCP haven't created an app of some sort that you can use to play the non spaceship side of eve, which lets be honest can account for a lot it. Eve is so well suited to an app for all the communication and spreadsheet side of things.

An example is battle log for BF3 where I can communicate, check stats and upgrade my load outs etc. so when I next enter a game my classes are how I set them on battle log. Obviously there is a lot more that could be done with an eve app but thats an example of how big publishers are using apps to great success.

My iPad / iPhone (and I'm guessing most tablets / smart phones as well) could easily handle market transactions, skill planning, chat and even PI. There are 3rd party apps out for eve but you can just monitor stuff, not interact.

Surely you are working on this CCP?!

What does everyone else think?

Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#2 - 2013-01-16 13:25:31 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
I find it soooo strange that CCP haven't created an app of some sort that you can use to play the non spaceship side of eve, which lets be honest can account for a lot it. Eve is so well suited to an app for all the communication and spreadsheet side of things.

An example is battle log for BF3 where I can communicate, check stats and upgrade my load outs etc. so when I next enter a game my classes are how I set them on battle log. Obviously there is a lot more that could be done with an eve app but thats an example of how big publishers are using apps to great success.

My iPad / iPhone (and I'm guessing most tablets / smart phones as well) could easily handle market transactions, skill planning, chat and even PI. There are 3rd party apps out for eve but you can just monitor stuff, not interact.

Surely you are working on this CCP?!

What does everyone else think?




Lol i would be happy if i could get client - spaceflight and eye candy that works even on older machine. Could actually play market game with my old mini laptop again.

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...

Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#3 - 2013-01-16 13:33:23 UTC
Dasola wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
I find it soooo strange that CCP haven't created an app of some sort that you can use to play the non spaceship side of eve, which lets be honest can account for a lot it. Eve is so well suited to an app for all the communication and spreadsheet side of things.

An example is battle log for BF3 where I can communicate, check stats and upgrade my load outs etc. so when I next enter a game my classes are how I set them on battle log. Obviously there is a lot more that could be done with an eve app but thats an example of how big publishers are using apps to great success.

My iPad / iPhone (and I'm guessing most tablets / smart phones as well) could easily handle market transactions, skill planning, chat and even PI. There are 3rd party apps out for eve but you can just monitor stuff, not interact.

Surely you are working on this CCP?!

What does everyone else think?




Lol i would be happy if i could get client - spaceflight and eye candy that works even on older machine. Could actually play market game with my old mini laptop again.


Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
Demolishar
United Aggression
#4 - 2013-01-16 13:38:06 UTC
Dasola wrote:

Lol i would be happy if i could get client - spaceflight and eye candy that works even on older machine. Could actually play market game with my old mini laptop again.


I too want to be able to multibox 500 mackinaws at once on an averagePC.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-01-16 13:38:44 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
His point was that with a lightweight client you could play the game while on the go.

And it's not all that strange that they haven't done it. They want people to log in. They also prefer it when the community creates its own solution using API-based tools, and with CREST, those tools will become more and more capable over time.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-01-16 13:42:24 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
Dasola wrote:

Lol i would be happy if i could get client - spaceflight and eye candy that works even on older machine. Could actually play market game with my old mini laptop again.


I too want to be able to multibox 500 mackinaws at once on an averagePC.

Use LN2 and have Isoboxer.
Set a timer for when they will finish then fleet warp to a pos, can it all log off, log on orca vaccum dock and process.
Dave Stark
#7 - 2013-01-16 13:50:51 UTC
would gladly pay for an app to let me update my skill queue.
Arec Bardwin
#8 - 2013-01-16 14:00:05 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
would gladly pay for an app to let me update my skill queue.
The app is called exefile.exe, and you are already paying to be able to update your skill queue.
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#9 - 2013-01-16 14:03:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
His point was that with a lightweight client you could play the game while on the go.

And it's not all that strange that they haven't done it. They want people to log in. They also prefer it when the community creates its own solution using API-based tools, and with CREST, those tools will become more and more capable over time.


I don't get that argument you will be logging on and still paying your subs. There are people who just trade all the time, would it matter if they were doing it from the client or the app? IMO no. It would mean more people logged on more of the time as you don't need to be at home to interact.

In terms of letting 3rd parties do it great but I just can't help feeling that the way eve is set up an on the go app by CCP is a real missed opportunity.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-01-16 14:03:51 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
His point was that with a lightweight client you could play the game while on the go.

And it's not all that strange that they haven't done it. They want people to log in. They also prefer it when the community creates its own solution using API-based tools, and with CREST, those tools will become more and more capable over time.

They also don't see the need to expend a large amount of developer time for something that probably the majority won't ever use.

I tend to agree.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#11 - 2013-01-16 14:10:19 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
His point was that with a lightweight client you could play the game while on the go.

And it's not all that strange that they haven't done it. They want people to log in. They also prefer it when the community creates its own solution using API-based tools, and with CREST, those tools will become more and more capable over time.

They also don't see the need to expend a large amount of developer time for something that probably the majority won't ever use.

I tend to agree.


What dev time is just a front end for what's already there. Also they have talked about this before at Fanfest and the new website etc was the starting point to mobile options.

Also you're telling me that if you had a basic eve client in your pocket, you're on the bus or train, on holiday or whatever and you'd never use it. LOLOLOLOL. Whatever?! I'm a regular FPS player and I use their apps all the time just like all of my friends. It would be no different with an EVE app. It would improve the amount of people on line and keep people interested when they are unable to play at home for whatever reason.

Dave Stark
#12 - 2013-01-16 14:12:19 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
would gladly pay for an app to let me update my skill queue.
The app is called exefile.exe, and you are already paying to be able to update your skill queue.


i meant one for my phone, so if i went on holiday i wasn't "forced" to put some long, uninteresting skill in the queue.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-01-16 14:13:33 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Hmm that's not what this thread is about. It's about having an App that works along side the client while you are on the go. So your point was?
His point was that with a lightweight client you could play the game while on the go.

And it's not all that strange that they haven't done it. They want people to log in. They also prefer it when the community creates its own solution using API-based tools, and with CREST, those tools will become more and more capable over time.

They also don't see the need to expend a large amount of developer time for something that probably the majority won't ever use.

I tend to agree.


What dev time is just a front end for what's already there. Also they have talked about this before at Fanfest and the new website etc was the starting point to mobile options.

Mobile options that third party developers can make once the CREST API is fully available.

Laris Orwan wrote:
Also you're telling me that if you had a basic eve client in your pocket, you're on the bus or train, on holiday or whatever and you'd never use it. LOLOLOLOL. Whatever?! I'm a regular FPS player and I use their apps all the time just like all of my friends. It would be no different with an EVE app. It would improve the amount of people on line and keep people interested when they are unable to play at home for whatever reason.

What would I use it for? Can't do combat, can't do PVE, can't move ships around.
I already have the Aura app for Android and I rarely use it.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2013-01-16 14:21:44 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
I don't get that argument you will be logging on and still paying your subs.
…but you're not creating content. People in-game is what creates content for all the other people in-game, and every time you log in, there's the chance that you get caught up in something and stay logged in to provide even more content.

So they want you to log in.

Even if you're just sitting there trading, you can start interacting with people and get roped in for some bit of mischief.

Quote:
In terms of letting 3rd parties do it great but I just can't help feeling that the way eve is set up an on the go app by CCP is a real missed opportunity.
The whole point of the API is that they aren't interested in that opportunity and that, if one actually exists, the players are better suited to discover what they want and need and to fill those gaps. It's far better to do it that way than to guess what players want and then slap together something that doesn't particularly meet their needs.
Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#15 - 2013-01-16 14:28:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Laris Orwan
Did you read my post properly? An app could easily have full chat as in the game, full market, full fitting, full skills and even PI could be done on the move, plus more I'm sure. Obviously the actual fly around stuff would be client only. But you spend a lot of time doing the other parts I mentioned. If I go away for two weeks I could still log and upgrade skills, sell stuff and chat with corp mates etc. that would be ace and stop me maybe not subbing for that month. You know keep people onboard and interacting with the game?

Look let me make this clear it WON'T replace the game. It will mean when you CAN'T log on you can still interact and create content though at a lesser level. This is a companion not a replacement. I can't shoot people on battlelog, I have to play the game but I can interact, set matches up, change my load out etc. It's hugely popular why would an eve one not be as well?

If they made what I'm suggesting everyone would use it unless you have the luxury of being able to sit at your PC 24/7.

The way everyone is talking is like I'm sat at home going balls to actually logging on to the game I'll use my light version on my iPad instead! Your going to play the game aren't you!!??

It's a positive add on.. what is everyone scared off. I'm pretty new to eve and the stories of leave our eve alone are so true aren't they? :)
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#16 - 2013-01-16 14:34:13 UTC
I use Aura on my phone/tablet for when I need to look up stats to check my skill queue. It doesn't allow you to add, but I just remote in to my desktop and login change my queue when needed. Setting up something like this is not difficult.

Twitch streamer and EVE NT tournament broadcaster.

Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#17 - 2013-01-16 14:43:09 UTC
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
I use Aura on my phone/tablet for when I need to look up stats to check my skill queue. It doesn't allow you to add, but I just remote in to my desktop and login change my queue when needed. Setting up something like this is not difficult.


Cool.. like the work around though I still want an official app.. it's crying out for one. Plus you have to leave you PC/Mac on all the time for remote desktops to work. Also I've used a few on my iPad and though useable they can be a bit clunky.

A good option though that does work.


Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#18 - 2013-01-16 14:49:51 UTC
Laris Orwan wrote:
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
I use Aura on my phone/tablet for when I need to look up stats to check my skill queue. It doesn't allow you to add, but I just remote in to my desktop and login change my queue when needed. Setting up something like this is not difficult.


Cool.. like the work around though I still want an official app.. it's crying out for one. Plus you have to leave you PC/Mac on all the time for remote desktops to work. Also I've used a few on my iPad and though useable they can be a bit clunky.

A good option though that does work.




Could look into implementing Wake on LAN somehow.

Wake on LAN

Twitch streamer and EVE NT tournament broadcaster.

Laris Orwan
DigiLab
#19 - 2013-01-16 14:58:45 UTC
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
Laris Orwan wrote:
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
I use Aura on my phone/tablet for when I need to look up stats to check my skill queue. It doesn't allow you to add, but I just remote in to my desktop and login change my queue when needed. Setting up something like this is not difficult.


Cool.. like the work around though I still want an official app.. it's crying out for one. Plus you have to leave you PC/Mac on all the time for remote desktops to work. Also I've used a few on my iPad and though useable they can be a bit clunky.

A good option though that does work.




Could look into implementing Wake on LAN somehow.

Wake on LAN



I totally here you and I guess you are like me who likes to be able to access things remotely and on the go? I just don't think putting a front end on a companion app would be a big job for CCP and it would be much slicker and over 3g etc. Latency issues etc with RD would pretty much right off 3g. They should get with the times and embrace the mobile generation thats all.

Again though thanks for the info :)
Justin Valentine
Mickey Mouse Club
#20 - 2013-01-16 15:12:17 UTC
There is no point of this app, as others have said it is better if we are forced to log into the full client, besides who knows what the devs are currently working on.

There is portable options available now including a regular old laptop or this beastly Tablet

I don't think we need an app that gives us the spreadsheet side of Eve but infact a full Android version of the client otherwise what is the point.
They would be better off makeing a whole new client for Android, I am sure the Tegra 3 would be perfectly capeable running Eve.
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