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Exploration Questions!

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Teseer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-16 01:38:28 UTC
Hey guys!

I've been looking into Exploration and so far I'm loving the idea and whatnot.

However, I had a few questions that all the guides and Videos didn't answer. I'm stuck at work for the next few days, so I figured I'd ask here! :)

-How much do the Rats scale difficulty wise in Magnetometric, Ladar, and Radar sites?
(As in: How many average would be at these sites and when Battlecruisers/Battleships begin to spawn)

-In a Cosmic Anomaly Combat Site, how do you know if there is an 'Escalation' and what do you do about it?

-When do the Exploration sites change? Is it like Asteroid Belts that get replenished with downtime?

-Is there ALWAYS something to find in a given Solar system?

If these questions were answered somewhere obvious, I whole-heartedly apologize!

Thanks,
Teseer
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2013-01-16 01:41:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
Quote:
-How much do the Rats scale difficulty wise in Magnetometric, Ladar, and Radar sites?
(As in: How many average would be at these sites and when Battlecruisers/Battleships begin to spawn)


They don't scale within a site. Hisec offers either no rats or frigate rats, lowsec has cruiser/BC rats and nullsec has some BS rats. In general, hisec sites can be done in an t1 probing frigate (probe, imicus, etc.) lowsec sites can be done in a t1 cruiser or t2 assault frigate. Not sure on nullsec, a ganky AF or certain T1 cruisers could probably do it, but in general BC or t2 cruiser might be more standard.

Quote:
-When do the Exploration sites change? Is it like Asteroid Belts that get replenished with downtime?


When sites are completed they despawn and respawn elsewhere.

Quote:
-Is there ALWAYS something to find in a given Solar system?


Nope. Especially if its' a heavily-traveled area.
Teseer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-16 01:59:08 UTC
Huzzah! Thank you Kahega!

One thing though: When I say scaling in difficulty, I mean as you go down in Security Status. I currently hang out in 0.3 and 0.2, I'm just assuming at this point that BS rats would be there.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#4 - 2013-01-16 02:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
Quote:
One thing though: When I say scaling in difficulty, I mean as you go down in Security Status. I currently hang out in 0.3 and 0.2, I'm just assuming at this point that BS rats would be there.


Nope. In most respects, this included, lowsec is lowsec, nullsec is nullsec, and hisec is hisec. As far as I am aware, sites that spawn in .4 are as difficult as the sites that spawn in .1

In case this is a point of confusion, .5 - 1.0 is hisec, .1 to .4 is lowsec, and 0.0 - (-1.0) are nullsec.
Teseer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-01-16 02:04:43 UTC
Huzzah again! I shouldn't need to change my fitting much after all.

I really appreciate the quick and precise answers :)
MashXX
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-01-16 06:04:21 UTC
Talemecus Valta
Deep Space Coalition
#7 - 2013-01-16 12:14:02 UTC
I did some low sec exploring last night actually.

The rats I came across included destroyers, three different types of frigate and one cruiser.

I was in a 0.4 system and I took them all down without loosing any drones.

Whilst I'm quite inexperienced with low sec systems and exploring them, I'd imagine the closer you get to null sec, the more powerful the ships become.

Talemecus Valta, PVP Cannon Fodder, Valta Industries.

Talemecus Valta
Deep Space Coalition
#8 - 2013-01-16 12:15:01 UTC


Do you have a wiki wormhole list?

One that has the C-Class category would be great thanks.

Talemecus Valta, PVP Cannon Fodder, Valta Industries.

Merouk Baas
#9 - 2013-01-16 12:53:58 UTC
There are 2500 w-space solar systems. If you have a J- number for one, you can look it up in www.staticmapper.com, to see some of its characteristics and, more importantly, if any activity has been reported recently.

The w-space solar systems connect to each other and to high, low, or nullsec via temporary wormholes. You can see an index of the wormholes here, but they never link to exactly the same system.

The process usually is: you scan the wormhole, look up its A892 number to see what class it potentially links to, then if you're interested in the class you go through and once in the w-space you jot down the J- number, look it up, and d-scan for POS towers etc. to determine occupancy.

Some people are working on w-space mapping apps, but the apps look more like flowcharts, because what's important is what path you currently can take to reach anywhere, and the path changes all the time. Would be cool to have an online, real time map of the links, but such information is a risk to the w-space dwellers.

Old map.
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#10 - 2013-01-16 13:50:57 UTC
I've met battleship rats in high-sec radar sites. Probably result of a failed hacking attempt.
Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#11 - 2013-01-16 15:25:24 UTC
In regards to wormholes: http://www.tigerears.org/2011/04/24/wormhole-colours/

I also wanted to mention that site spawning is somewhat mysterious, not a lot is known though observations have been made by many players. Here's what I've learned

-Sites de-spawn minutes after you've hit the de-spawn trigger and left the site
-Sites re-spawn in the same type somewhere else in New Eden, not necessarily the same constellation or region
-There's no limit to how few or many sites can spawn in a particular system, sometimes you'll find none, sometimes you'll find five.
-There's a set number of total sites in the whole game
-Untouched sites and non de-spawned sites de-spawn automatically after 72 hours

So note that, sites can accumulate in isolated wormholes, I've found fifteen profession sites in one before and they're worth doing if you think the WH is relatively safe. Also there are wormholes that lead to lowsec and null. You should be able to easily do any profession sites with the right equipment and relatively low amount of skill points so you might as well make full use of wormholes, both for doing WH profession sites and low/null sites.
Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-16 16:00:07 UTC
Just my experience for radar/mag sites:

Highsec: Unguarded or frigate spawns. Rare spawns in opening cans. Chance of elite frigates. Can easily be cleared with an exploration frigate with reasonable drone skills.

Lowsec: Cruiser, destroyers, frigates, with rare elites. Container spawns and multiple waves are more common. Container traps are more common, so it's a good idea to pull in your drones before trying to hack a can.

Nullsec: Only a few sites explored. All of them had spawns of 2-4 battleships. Container spawns are BCs or BSs. Container traps are also possible.

Spawns are apparently determined by site name, such as: "Local ___ Data Processing Terminal" Generally speaking, the more cans, the more rats.
Merouk Baas
#13 - 2013-01-16 16:50:08 UTC
Teseer wrote:
Hey guys!
-In a Cosmic Anomaly Combat Site, how do you know if there is an 'Escalation' and what do you do about it?


When you kill the escalation trigger (can be a ship, or a structure), you may get lucky and get an escalation (it seems to be random, and a rather small chance).

You will know because you'll get a pop-up that usually says that a bunch of ships have escaped to elsewhere. You also get a link in your missions journal, in the Exploration tab, with the solar system where the escalation is. You can right-click it and set autopilot.

When you get to the solar system, the link changes so you can "Warp To" the site. You should actually bookmark your location as soon as you arrive, just in case the link goes away.

The escalation can escalate, too, but again the chance is small. If the Evelopedia says a site has 4 escalations in a row, you're not guaranteed to get all 4; you have to be very lucky with each one to get the next.
Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#14 - 2013-01-16 17:37:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternal Montage
Teseer wrote:
how do you know if there is an 'Escalation' and what do you do about it?


Escalations come with a popup telling you you've got one and they show up in your journal.I typically google each DED site (shows up as "Unknown" when probing) I come across so I know if it's going to escalate or not. Google typically leads me to evelopedia or eve wiki. As for what to do about them. I refit my Loki for cloakiness which means I cant carry drones so I throw a web on it in case the frigates get cheeky. Escalations in lowsec are typically really easy, they're just hard to get to and they may escalate multiple times so you'll be flying all around dangerous territories. Usually all you have to do is kill one or two rats (the faction rat and the trigger--they might be the same ship), then loot it and fly off. If you get a good Expedition you'll have 4 escalations in it and the last one will be in null (if you started in lowsec) so having a cloak is invaluable, makes it easy to solo them. Though most cloaky t3 fits struggle against frigates so it's better to fly with a friend IMO.
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#15 - 2013-01-16 18:31:40 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
You also get a link in your missions journal, in the Exploration tab, with the solar system where the escalation is.

The tab in the Journal is called Expeditions.

Sorry, that's the only useful information I can add to all these great posts. Smile
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#16 - 2013-01-16 20:13:42 UTC
Eternal Montage wrote:

-Sites re-spawn in the same type somewhere else in New Eden, not necessarily the same constellation or region.


The fact that there are any sites whatsoever in high-sec and occupied null sec indicates that they are, in fact, anchored geographically, probably to either region or constellation.

My guess is Region, personally, but I haven't ever been bored enough to survey a full region that repeatedly.
Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#17 - 2013-01-16 20:33:10 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
Eternal Montage wrote:

-Sites re-spawn in the same type somewhere else in New Eden, not necessarily the same constellation or region.


The fact that there are any sites whatsoever in high-sec and occupied null sec indicates that they are, in fact, anchored geographically, probably to either region or constellation.

My guess is Region, personally, but I haven't ever been bored enough to survey a full region that repeatedly.


I've exhausted an entire constellation before so that's certainly not the case. It is possible they spawn on a regional basis though no one has gone out to collect any quantifiable data that I know of. A region is just far too large to gather any data on anyways, It would be impossible to ascertain a single fact. It would make sense though because different regions have different types of rats... and there seems to be a balance of sites across the board in each region.
Teseer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-01-18 04:11:27 UTC
Wow, thank you everyone! I have tonnnnnnns of info now, I appreciate all the input.

Today was my first find that wasn't a Wormhole or of little interest and I'm very much enjoying the process!

To the depths. o7
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-18 04:56:36 UTC
Don't ignore the wormholes man! Go in and make isk happen.
Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#20 - 2013-01-18 14:35:25 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Don't ignore the wormholes man! Go in and make isk happen.


Listen to this guy^ You don't have to farm all of them but you should go into most of them and at least warp to all of them. Learn to read the "show info" descriptions of wormholes. They tell you everything. There is great logistical value of wormholes. Think of them as random shortcuts for getting all the way across the cluster.