Intergalactic Summit

It's reassuring to know that every time Mitara Newele lies about PIE being anything other than genocidal racists, one of her members quickly and courageously rushes to cram her foot into her mouth for her.

She doesn't lie about that. My role as a reclaimer is just that to RECLAIM. Whether through peaceful conversion and absorbtion into the Amarr Empire, or through force of arms, the reclaiming will take place. Killing others, while unfortunate, is a nessicery part of my role in service to God. The Scriptures clearly outline the role of True Amarr. Look at the Ni-Kunni, or the Khanid. Each have assimilated into the Amarr Empire, and worship the One True God.

The outcome of the reclaiming is up to you, coverstion and assimilation, or forced subjugation. Either way, the Amarr Empire will carry out the mandate given to us by God.

Yes - funny how nearly every Ni-Kunni that gets the opportunity to do so flees to Solitude, and five out of seven of the Minmatar tribes collectively decided, after about seven hundred years of subjugation and brutal tyranny, that they weren't particularly happy with your way of doing things and left - and then, a hundred years later, the entire remaining membership of the sixth tribe and a vast swath of the previously servile seventh tribe made the same decision. Despite the Amarr vastly outnumbering them, the Minmatar Republic has not fallen and will not do so. The State has absolutely no intention of enduring the cultural subjugation of any entity, much less yours, and the Federation have made it abundantly clear what will happen to any Amarr vessel that dares violate our sovereignty.

If the Amarr Empire remains determined to use violence to spread its savage, barbaric religion, it will simply drag itself into the hellfire it threatens outsiders with.

I have to agree with Tibs. I used to think that just glassing a planet, especially after Evaloun, was the way to punish them. But upon talking with my best buddy Tibs, he made a lot of sense. Civilians don't deserve to be dragged into this crap, especially a planet worth of em.

Now, a planet full of angry ravenous slaver hounds bordering on intelligent and hell bent on destroying every race in New Eden? OK maybe that would call for orbital bombardment...but uh, yeah. I digress.

..What colour are the stars in the universe in which you fly, sir? Paisley, maybe? The collective hands of our nation might not be clean, but your own nation wont be passing any white glove tests anytime soon, either. We take care of our people and educate them with real schools, instead of sim games, social media, and racy holovids. There is a lot more to us than just the greediest and most ineptly tyrannical of Holders that you frighten your children with at night.

--remove--

It's funny how you rail against misrepresentation of your culture, and then show your immense ignorance of how Federal culture works. The education system in the Federation is one of the most successful and vibrant in the cluster, second only to the Society of Conscious Thought.



So all you have is inaccurate and childish ad hominem attacks regarding the state of the Federation? The Federation Navy destroyed an entire Great House fleet with utterly negligable casualties, and they did it so thoroughly that Sarum stripping Kador of his fleet after the fact was merely a formality - there was almost nothing left for her to confiscate. In fact, the Empire in general seemed so humiliated about the entire affair that when we wanted something from their space, they simply let us take it.

I wouldn't call us letting you actually feel like you've done something the Amarr Empire being embarrased. we let you save ourselves the nuisance. More rather, we permitted you to make a statement for us. Those not in line with the Empress and God are not subject to the protection that her fleets offer.

In simpler terms, we let the children have their temper tantrum, as house you had a fit in was marked for demolition anyhow.


*golf clap*

good boys, now go back to your room

*pats on head*

You're not exactly making the point for humanity here.



This is a giant mess of irrelevancy. I am a Sansha Loyalist. I believe fully in the dream. Everyone and everyone knows this.

This doesn't mean I am automatically in favor of nuking planets, and in fact our own experience with this happening to us has made us even less likely to do so.

Consider this: You believe me to be an extremist, and yet only one of us is advocating the wholesale murder of civilians. You are a slave to something, believe me, but whatever your current master is, its causing some severe neurological deficiencies.

I'm fairly sure no faction represented in this discussion can claim not to have dirty, bloody hands.



The Sansha are just proud of their habits, claiming 'enlightment'. (Not many dissenting voices amongst implant-controlled slaves and cybernetic hive minds.)



The Amarr justify it with theocratic fanaticism. (And, honestly, it's worked for them. So far.)



The Caldari are such pragmatic capitalists they proudly advertise it. (It makes for a good deterrent. Does mean that the most ruthless and underhanded end up on top.)



The Minmatar learned it from their (mostly) former masters, and used it, having no other choices at the time. (And don't care to find another path, no matter what letting their hate mold them into will cost them.)



The Gallente, aside from a [very few, ignore what actually happens in the world. (And that majority act so shocked when the occasion striked that they find out how very nasty reality is, and what their protectors had to do.)


The pirate factions revel in the slaughter and harsh realities. (Why wouldn't they?)


CONCORD...claims the violence, interference, and restrictions they enact are 'for our own good'. No that they are succeeding, having been thwarted so often. (Like they think we are ignorant, uncontrolled children. While there is some truth, who are they to determine that?)



The Sisters of EVE...tend to hide the violence they employ behind their (truthful, if not fully honest) charitable endeavors.



The Jove...laugh at us all, despite facing a slow--and, to their culture, horrifying--extinction. (Of course, they coulld also quite handily--if with effort--kill the entire cluster, so humor is their perogative.)



And the infamous capsuleers...especially those of what myself and my peers and fellows call the 'Zero Zones' of 0.0 (and beyond)...they live the most truthfully of us all. Very few deny what they are, or bother to pretend to care for those that cannot affect them. Immortality through unending rebirth can be a curse that way...one forgets to care about those without your own power, or likely never did in the first place.



But we are all slaves to something...and we all lie--to ourselves and to others--about at least one thing (usually quite a few more). I'm a slave to my purpose and duty here; sadly even a new identity, body, and reality changes not who I am.

Others of you are slaves to indoctrinated loyalties, or chosen duty, or simply power for its own sake.

The 'Mysterious Soldiers'? Are simply likely to be the planetary equivalent of Capsuleers: Each an immortal nation unto themselves, fighting (and endlessly dying) only for their own purposes, caring not for the judgement or actions of any not their 'peers'.

Those whom no longer fear death or time are not truly Homo Sapiens--no matter their gene code--but they are still subject (Sansha, of course, not included) to the humanity from whence they were born.



Enjoy being young, all of you. See how that immortality feels in several thousand years...especially when most of them were in realities not even remotely like this one. Not that many (or even any) of you will ever have that chance.


And there is worse that can happen than Sansha's petty revenge or the anger of an ancient cutlture's sentinels.

Things none of you are even remotely prepared for, and likely never will be.