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MIcrobial Life Discovered In Meteorite.
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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2013-01-16 00:12:39 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Rain6639 wrote:
don't just sit there, pick up the phone and call buckingham university like the author intended

c'mon it's a prank

ok, can you pay up the international call fees?


yes i can, and then some
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#22 - 2013-01-16 00:33:08 UTC
Predictably there's lots of people questioning it, because NASA is the appointed gatekeeper for all space discoveries. Straight

It's quite difficult these days to do any sort of serious research into these things without NASA influence, which is why publications like this journal are popping up. They may not have the same polish of other journals, but it's still worth consideration.

To show just how unbiased i am on matters of science, i'll provide you with Phil Plait's denial of this discovery. That guy lives to attack everything outside of NASA, and blindly support everything NASA says, so he's pretty biased himself. He tries every trick in the book to make it go away, from ad-hominem attacks to misrepresenting the study, and never really comes out with any hard proof its not accurate, but it's still the best attempt to 'debunk' it i've seen yet, and to some of you it will probably be very convincing.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2013-01-16 02:47:30 UTC
anyone who has passed a general biology 100 class should see through the paper.

first flag: how did the process go from meteor discovery, to analysis, to publishing between 29 december and 10 Jan

  1. pygmys in sri lanka identify this rock as a meteorite, in the middle of nowhere
  2. no i'm not serious about the pygmy bit i'm just making fun
  3. buckingham university is identified as the most appropriate recipient of the rock
  4. the rock is sent and arrives at buckingham university
  5. the rock is analyzed and studied
  6. hypotheses, conclusions, controls, etc. ->scientific process
  7. all certifying parties involved agree on their findings
  8. paper is published


in two weeks?

second flag: why is the journal of cosmology explaining what a diatom is? I know what a diatom is, surely anyone who follows the journal of cosmology would too....

this is because: unless the target audience is the uneducated. when -ever- is a scientific journal article written for laypeople.

OP.

seriously?

quick fact pulled out of my *** memory: the average IQ of persons who have earned a doctorate degree is just shy of 130. I shared this two-cent statistic with one of my professors and he was proud.

education isn't everything, but it helps to think for yourself. I worry about you, OP.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-01-16 03:01:02 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
anyone who has passed a general biology 100 class should see through the paper.

first flag: how did the process go from meteor discovery, to analysis, to publishing between 29 december and 10 Jan

  1. pygmys in sri lanka identify this rock as a meteorite, in the middle of nowhere
  2. no i'm not serious about the pygmy bit i'm just making fun
  3. buckingham university is identified as the most appropriate recipient of the rock
  4. the rock is sent and arrives at buckingham university
  5. the rock is analyzed and studied
  6. hypotheses, conclusions, controls, etc. ->scientific process
  7. all certifying parties involved agree on their findings
  8. paper is published


in two weeks?

second flag: why is the journal of cosmology explaining what a diatom is? I know what a diatom is, surely anyone who follows the journal of cosmology would too....

this is because: unless the target audience is the uneducated. when -ever- is a scientific journal article written for laypeople.

OP.

seriously?

quick fact pulled out of my *** memory: the average IQ of persons who have earned a doctorate degree is just shy of 130. I shared this two-cent statistic with one of my professors and he was proud.

education isn't everything, but it helps to think for yourself. I worry about you, OP.


The pygmies are good at their jobs

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-16 03:16:41 UTC
Everyone is forgetting the important question here.

Can we deep fry it and serve it on a stick?

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#26 - 2013-01-16 03:19:07 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
education isn't everything, but it helps to think for yourself. I worry about you, OP.


Formal education is mainly about memorization, actually. People aren't scored on how well they can think independently, they're scored on how well they can parrot what they were told.

And don't worry about me. I'll keep thinking for myself and taking abuse from mediocre minds for it. Been doing it so long i take people getting mad as a sign of cognitive dissonance, and not personally P

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Mai Shen Chent-Shi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-01-16 03:54:48 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Everyone is forgetting the important question here.

Can we deep fry it and serve it on a stick?


Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-01-16 03:59:17 UTC
Mai Shen Chent-Shi wrote:
Graygor wrote:
Everyone is forgetting the important question here.

Can we deep fry it and serve it on a stick?


Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew?


Stew on a stick?

Challenge accepted Straight

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2013-01-16 04:00:05 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:


The pygmies are good at their jobs


that word looks so much cooler with two y's tho
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-01-16 05:08:56 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Mai Shen Chent-Shi wrote:
Graygor wrote:
Everyone is forgetting the important question here.

Can we deep fry it and serve it on a stick?


Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew?


Stew on a stick?

Challenge accepted Straight


Deep fried alien bacteria stew on a stick?

Ive seen worse at county fairs.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-01-16 08:46:01 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
anyone who has passed a general biology 100 class should see through the paper.

first flag: how did the process go from meteor discovery, to analysis, to publishing between 29 december and 10 Jan

  1. pygmys in sri lanka identify this rock as a meteorite, in the middle of nowhere
  2. no i'm not serious about the pygmy bit i'm just making fun
  3. buckingham university is identified as the most appropriate recipient of the rock
  4. the rock is sent and arrives at buckingham university
  5. the rock is analyzed and studied
  6. hypotheses, conclusions, controls, etc. ->scientific process
  7. all certifying parties involved agree on their findings
  8. paper is published


in two weeks?

second flag: why is the journal of cosmology explaining what a diatom is? I know what a diatom is, surely anyone who follows the journal of cosmology would too....

this is because: unless the target audience is the uneducated. when -ever- is a scientific journal article written for laypeople.

OP.

seriously?

quick fact pulled out of my *** memory: the average IQ of persons who have earned a doctorate degree is just shy of 130. I shared this two-cent statistic with one of my professors and he was proud.

education isn't everything, but it helps to think for yourself. I worry about you, OP.
ok then, I say this again:


until proof of contrary or otherwise, I shall treat that paper as neither a hoax or fact.

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Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#32 - 2013-01-16 12:10:21 UTC
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#33 - 2013-01-16 12:24:47 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
anyone who has passed a general biology 100 class should see through the paper.

first flag: how did the process go from meteor discovery, to analysis, to publishing between 29 december and 10 Jan

  1. pygmys in sri lanka identify this rock as a meteorite, in the middle of nowhere
  2. no i'm not serious about the pygmy bit i'm just making fun
  3. buckingham university is identified as the most appropriate recipient of the rock
  4. the rock is sent and arrives at buckingham university
  5. the rock is analyzed and studied
  6. hypotheses, conclusions, controls, etc. ->scientific process
  7. all certifying parties involved agree on their findings
  8. paper is published


in two weeks?

second flag: why is the journal of cosmology explaining what a diatom is? I know what a diatom is, surely anyone who follows the journal of cosmology would too....

this is because: unless the target audience is the uneducated. when -ever- is a scientific journal article written for laypeople.

OP.

seriously?

quick fact pulled out of my *** memory: the average IQ of persons who have earned a doctorate degree is just shy of 130. I shared this two-cent statistic with one of my professors and he was proud.

education isn't everything, but it helps to think for yourself. I worry about you, OP.


We got it the first time.

Quit trying to turn OOPE in to the nerdragecage that is GD

wumbo
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-01-16 13:17:24 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
my claim is, the paper is a joke

those were found on 29 December 2012, and the report is published 2 weeks later?

if these people value their credibility at all, they would spend weeks, even months refining their claims before publishing.

anyone familiar with scientific papers would recognize this, and have a good laugh.

heading of the paper: dated 10 january 2013

first sentence of the abstract: "We report the discovery for the first time of diatom frustules in a carbonaceous meteorite that fell in the North Central Province of Sri Lanka on 29 December 2012."

translation: 'hey, y'all, this is a joke. let's see what people say.'




These guys too made the century discovery a couple months ago, but...

Love how fast we got from "journalism=information" to "misinformation graduates, option: sell more paper" Lol

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2013-01-16 15:23:50 UTC
Damn guys did you really have to quote that crap i wrote
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-01-16 15:30:30 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
Damn guys did you really have to quote that crap i wrote


Because I can.


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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#37 - 2013-01-16 15:54:11 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
These guys too made the century discovery a couple months ago, but...


Was following that closely until they said people could find out more when they release their movie or whatever. Now their motives seem less than pure.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
DuKackBoon
Soban Heavy Industries
#38 - 2013-01-16 16:43:41 UTC
It wasn't a meteorite, and the diatoms weren't fossilized. False alarm.
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